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The Marketplace => Selling Venues => Flea Markets => Topic started by: parksleyman on July 21, 2013, 09:02:47 AM
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Yesterday at the flea market went good, mad some money, donated some stuff, which equals to moving it.
When the haitian people come, it sucks, they will steal you blind. I lost what little respect I had for them.
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actually stole property, or haggled you down to nothing?
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They will steal from you.
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They will steal from you.
Every last one of them? Are there no good Haitian people?
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This crap gets to stay up for months degrading a whole nationality of people when any backhanded comment gets deleted? This forum needs some help :-[
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We are swamped with them on the shore, and yes I don't rust them. Have you ever been to the islands? They will rip-off an American as fast as the speed of sound. It's only my opinion but they all can go back…
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It's only my opinion but they all can go back…
You are certainly entitled to your opinion; in expressing this opinion you have joined those who over many decades have expressed similiar opinions about the following groups and more that I don't even know about.
Jews
Blacks
Irish
Pakistanis
Arabs
Chinese
Japanese
Mexicans
American Indians
Catholics
Latter Day Saints
Republicans
Democrats
Gays
Lesbians
Oakies
Hippies
Bums
etc, etc.
It's too bad that there is so much animosity toward our fellow men and women. These are the kinds of attitudes that sometimes lead to wars and sometimes mass killings of people because they are different.
There are bad people among all groups and good people exist there too.
It is my opinion that individuals should be judged, not groups of people by their race, nationality or creed.
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This crap gets to stay up for months degrading a whole nationality of people
Did you report the post, or just complain of it's existence?
Is the post accurate, meaning do Haitian people always steal from him like he said, or is he simply exaggerating?
If true, has it happened repeatedly, or was it a one time theft?
Just because someone generalizes a particular group of people doesn't mean he's wrong. Personally I wasn't there and don't know what did or did not happen, but he was there and did say what happened to him. So instead of believing one of our registered members, a few decided to defend some nameless strangers that could very well be guilty of the theft as claimed? Now there's some backwards thinking IMHO.
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Did you report the post, or just complain of it's existence?
Is the post accurate, meaning do Haitian people always steal from him like he said, or is he simply exaggerating?
If true, has it happened repeatedly, or was it a one time theft?
Just because someone generalizes a particular group of people doesn't mean he's wrong. Personally I wasn't there and don't know what did or did not happen, but he was there and did say what happened to him. So instead of believing one of our registered members, a few decided to defend some nameless strangers that could very well be guilty of the theft as claimed? Now there's some backwards thinking IMHO.
Generalizing a group of people to begin with is wrong. Who cares if he is exaggerating or if its happened repeatedly? That's like asking why didn't he word this topic differently, like why do people steal? What can I do to stop getting stolen from?
Am I Haitian? No. Am I offended? No. But that doesn't mean its not offensive just because we don't have a single Haitian member. No one is defending 'nameless strangers' just stating the obvious. Like if instead of being insulting, this thread was about storagebattles or SUAL.com, it would of been deleted within 24 hours of its creation.
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Generalizing a group of people to begin with is wrong.
It's wrong in YOUR opinion, not his. By saying it's wrong you are essentially saying that he cannot have HIS opinion because yours is the only correct one. IF the only people to steal off his table were Haitian, then his remark is both accurate and valid. Certain posts that make reference to storagebattles.com have been deleted for either legal reasons or because they were spam like in nature. There are many topics on this site regarding storagebattles.com. I don't know what sual.com is, so I can't comment on that one.
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I don't know what sual.com is, so I can't comment on that one.
SUAL=storage unit auction list
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SUAL=storage unit auction list
Ahh, got it, thanks.
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I lived in Florida and sold at the Thunderbird flea market. It is a fact that Haitians will steal off your tables dis-proportionally more than many other ethnic groups. Does this mean ALL Haitians steal? No. Does this mean ALL Haitians who shop at flea markets steal? No.
From my experience, Haitians who steal tend to be very bold about it, they don't have much of a problem walking off with something while you are looking them in the eye. Sure all kinds of people steal, but they tend to do it when your back is turned and your not really sure who done it, so it stands out in your mind more when Haitians do it compared to those who sneakily steal something and your not sure who it was.
Does that mean Latvians don't steal and we are just picking on Haitians? No, if I had a problem with ethnic Latvians stealing off my tables I would mention that too!
Haitians also tend to be very aggressive bargainers that most Americans are not use to dealing with.
For those of you who have never lived with and encountered large groups of Haitians, especially those who were refugees, you should give those of us who have a little credit and step down from the politically correct, kumbayah soap box.
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For those of you who have never lived with and encountered large groups of Haitians, especially those who were refugees, you should give those of us who have a little credit and step down from the politically correct, kumbayah soap box.
The song Kumbaya was originally associated with human and spiritual unity, closeness and compassion, and it still is, but more recently it is also cited or alluded to in satirical or cynical ways which suggest false moralizing, hypocrisy, or naively optimistic views of the world and human nature.
Bigotry….
Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics.
Sorry, Cobia, but if it is a choice between bigotry and intolerance or compassion I’ll stick with the Kumbaya.
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That said, NEWBIES in the storage locker business should all be hung out to dry…or shipped out to Haiti. ;D
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It is a fact that Haitians will steal off your tables dis-proportionally more than many other ethnic groups.
There's no way you can make a statement like this and back it up by calling it a fact. An example of a fact would be; Tallahassee is the capitol of Florida. Not that X Racial group will steal more than any other.
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Sorry, Cobia, but if it is a choice between bigotry and intolerance or compassion I’ll stick with the Kumbaya.
From the guy who has single handedly caused more people to leave this forum do to his constant fighting, antagonizing, and cyber-stalking? :o
It's easy to be Politically Correct on the popular buzz issues, but to claim a tolerant and compassionate personality it must show in everything you do.
Since we are "labeling", here is one for you:
Cyberbully
Cyberbullying is defined in legal glossaries as
actions that use information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm another or others.
use of communication technologies for the intention of harming another person
use of internet service and mobile technologies such as web pages and discussion groups as well as instant messaging or SMS text messaging with the intention of harming another person.
Examples of what constitutes cyberbullying include communications that seek to intimidate, control, manipulate, put down, falsely discredit, or humiliate the recipient. The actions are deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior intended to harm another. Cyberbullying has been defined by The National Crime Prevention Council: “When the Internet, cell phones or other devices are used to send or post text or images intended to hurt or embarrass another person."[2][3]
A cyberbully may be a person whom the target knows or an online stranger. A cyberbully may be anonymous and may solicit involvement of other people online who do not even know the target. This is known as a 'digital pile-on.'[4] :-*
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From the guy who has single handedly caused more people to leave this forum do to his constant fighting, antagonizing, and cyber-stalking?
It's easy to be Politically Correct on the popular buzz issues, but to claim a tolerant and compassionate personality it must show in everything you do.
Really?
Please show me the empirical evidence that I single-handedly caused more people to leave this forum due to constant fighting, antagonizing and cyber-stalking? I think that would be pretty hard to do. Did people like Rockintheretro, moneyfornothin, Drew, jrossjr89, craiglstauction, monkeybusiness, acman, leota, storme leave because I cyber-stalked them or otherwise intimidated them? My guess is that the bulk of the people I mentioned above (if not all) left the forum because they just got tired of the business or the forum (or both).
On the other hand at least one member here called me by name (my real name, not my screen name) and from what I could tell that information came from here not from anywhere else…and I wasn’t the one who provided it.
Just because I took the time to find out the eBay user names and view the Craigslist listings of members here doesn’t mean I was (or am) stalking them. I have never released any of that information to anyone either here or anywhere else.
The information I gained about those people was all freely posted by those people right here on the forum. Sure, I put the pieces together where other people might not have had an interest in doing so, but it was only to learn some new things about listing on eBay/Craigslist from people who are having success with one or other or both. I have also learned things not to do in my listings.
If I call out Travis for not fulfilling the terms of an offer he made about posting in a certain area you can be sure it was not uncalled for. If I challenge Alloro for something he says I do so because I feel it is called for…just as you are doing here in regard to me. I don’t ask you to justify it, you don’t need to..it is something one decides to do for any number of reasons.
If I pay you (or, anyone else, a compliment), and I have paid YOU compliments on a fairly regular basis, I do so because I think it is deserved.
Due to the nature of your response above, maybe you think I was calling YOU a bigot or intolerant, but that was not the case. I told p…man that he was entitled to his opinion and you are too. I have no problem with that. I still think it is wrong of anyone to lump an entire group of people together and attribute some aspect to them. I believe this not because it is politically correct, but just because it is correct (imo).
Let the entire community judge for itself. They don’t have to defend me or you or anyone mentioned. They can just make their own judgements about each person and react or not react in any way they feel appropriate.
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The actions are deliberate, repeated,
Oh my, kind of like when a certain unnamed individual repeatedly brings up a remark I once made over my highway speed habits? So it's "The National Crime Prevention Council" that deals with this sort of thing? Hmm, interesting, I'll have to make a note of that. ;)
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So it's "The National Crime Prevention Council" that deals with this sort of thing? Hmm, interesting, I'll have to make a note of that. ;)
This is the funniest thing you've said in two months ! ;D
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Our fearless leader is noticeably absent in the best thread discussion since his reign of terror began. Since the chances of him not seeing this thread are literally zero, that must mean he supports the OP in some indirect way. What will bring him out of hiding? Shots at his other business ventures? Talking about his competition? Of course the guard dog has been doing a good job in here with stellar remarks about everyone having an opinion. Everyone can think for themselves? Really?
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Our fearless leader is noticeably absent in the best thread discussion since his reign of terror began. Since the chances of him not seeing this thread are literally zero, that must mean he supports the OP in some indirect way. What will bring him out of hiding? Shots at his other business ventures? Talking about his competition? Of course the guard dog has been doing a good job in here with stellar remarks about everyone having an opinion. Everyone can think for themselves? Really?
I have my feelings on why Travis hasn't said a word in this thread, but I'll let him explain himself (or not).
As to shots at his other business ventures, I've expressed myself often in the past about online storage auctions in general and anyone who has been around awhile knows I don't think they are a viable way of buying lockers.
If I am the "guard dog" you mention making stellar remarks about everyone having an opinion consider this:
If one says something here and claims it is the ONLY way to look at something there are SOME readers who will take it as "the truth and nothing but". There are some people who CAN'T think for themselves and my feeling is they at least should be prodded to do so.
One thing that I believe is true is something F....man mentioned a few weeks ago. We are so hard up for something new to talk about here (that truly relates to storage auctions and buying/selling merchandise) that any semi-controversial subject lends itself to at least SOME discussion. The TV shows are slowly on their way out; perhaps all things associated are as well.
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If I am the "guard dog" you mention making stellar remarks about everyone having an opinion consider this:
I thought it would be more obvious that was directed at alloro, although to be fair his intelligent assessment of people having opinions was made a few posts back. The ''guard dog'' reference to imply that Travis seems to be letting him handle this one, since he has been dully noted to be absent from this thread.
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I thought it would be more obvious that was directed at alloro
I'm just trying to keep things civil and fair to all.
Just an FYI, your "guard dog" remark is technically name calling and a personal attack. This is a violation of the TOS for this site and if I were to follow your path of trying to impose my way of thinking on others I would be required to delete your post. ::)
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Just an FYI, your "guard dog" remark is technically name calling and a personal attack. This is a violation of the TOS for this site and if I were to follow your path of trying to impose my way of thinking on others I would be required to delete your post. ::)
It wouldn't be the first (or second/third) time my posts were deleted, but then again this thread seems to be protected under some kind of immunity.
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It wouldn't be the first (or second/third) time my posts were deleted, but then again this thread seems to be protected under some kind of immunity.
While a forum owner can do what he/she wants, I'm not aware of any governing body that can tell a website what to do in regard to posts, language, opinions, attitudes, etc.
I declined Travis' offer to be a forum moderator because I wanted to be able to speak my mind and not make decisions on my own (or with his help) about what should fly and what shouldn't.
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I'm just trying to keep things civil and fair to all.
Just an FYI, your "guard dog" remark is technically name calling and a personal attack. This is a violation of the TOS for this site and if I were to follow your path of trying to impose my way of thinking on others I would be required to delete your post. ::)
I have started a thread inquiring about the TOS. It is located at the link below.
http://storageauctionforums.com/suggestion-center/terms-of-service-(tos)-for-this-website/msg30769/#msg30769
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I have started a thread inquiring about the TOS. It is located at the link below.
Why, what's your point?
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Why, what's your point?
What's my point? Understanding, is my point.
Most people who sign up for forums (or other online types of things) simply push the accept button and
don't even read what they are agreeing to.
By providing it somewhere other than the initial contact people can have a greater understanding of the TOS.
In the thread I started where I did the cut and paste of the TOS I will post some observations and questions about it.
I assume it is all right to pose questions to have a greater understanding? If not, please let me know in this thread as a response to this post.
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I assume it is all right to pose questions to have a greater understanding?
Well of course it's alright, you just usually have a motive for doing something so I was being proactive in asking if there was a point to your inquiry.