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I think someone has it out for me...

I think someone has it out for me...
« on: April 23, 2013, 10:08:45 AM »
At the last few auctions, I have encountered the same fellow during bidding and it seems like he has something against me. I feel like he bids on the unit just because I am. Last auction we were both bidding on a 10x15 whole house unit. They even packed up their cleaning supplies. I put a limit of $600 on it, because even though it was a lot of boxes, it was also a lot of stuff that I just couldn't sell, like those cleaning supplies.. It was me and this guy (Tom) bidding on the unit the whole way. With each bid he got more and more aggressive. So I push my own budget to $800, everything I had on me. Finally after my $800 bid, Tom says "$825! Now go away already!"

The auction before he was just as aggressive only on the units I was bidding on.. I wonder why he's got it out for me..

Re: I think someone has it out for me...
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 10:24:18 AM »
I wonder if me and you have had any run ins. I am from the Fayetteville area but travel to Aberdeen/Rockingham/Whiteville areas. I have been close to Raleigh as well with places like Smithfield/Wendell/Clayton. As to your problem at hand, return the favor. Any thing you see him bid on drive him up. And if he doesnt bid until you do, you have your answer.

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Re: I think someone has it out for me...
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 10:32:42 AM »
And if he doesn't bid until you do, you have your answer.

My thought exactly.

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Re: I think someone has it out for me...
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2013, 12:03:28 PM »
I couple of questions HomeGrown,

Is he a seasoned vet and are you a relative newbie? or are you more a regular and he a newbie? It seems like with a childish response like 825! Now go away already! he is not a professional.

My hunches are, he is a seasoned regular (although not a professsional) and you are bidding on units in his "sweet spot" thereby creating competition for him. In smaller markets, just showing up to certain auctions is infringing on someones sweet spot. You also stand out in the crowd, so you might be drawing more attention then normal 6'4" tall, 350 lbs.?

It's typical for vets to try to single a couple of newbies who they think have potential to be long-term competition and try to weed them out by running them up. It's all fair as far as i'm concerned but the "Now go away already!" is a bit much. I know you have to fight with the ammo you got, and you said you bid as high as your budget would allow, I would just suggest keep doing what your doing, and when he bids on units you run him up.

The one sure fire way to get old-timers and newbies off your back is to make them pay big time on everything they bid on. Yea, they might drop a few units on you, but just smile and keep coming back. The other way to send a meesage is to go BIG on some units, even ones your nemesis isn't bidding on. This is a gamble, and you have to be willing to lose some money, but it sends a clear message that you have money to spend (and lose) so 1. you can't be intimidated by being run up, 2. You can make life miserable for everyone else.

The bad news with this technique is you will lose money, and potentially a lot of money. The good news is you should be able to get your nemesis and other knats off your balls within a couple of months instead of induring the thousand cuts of death from this guy and others for the next year, 2 years, however long you plan to do this.

Here is what I would do to your "friend". Next time he is bidding on a unit, assuming it's a slow auctioneer, walk right up to him and say "Oh, your bidding on this unit?" Then drop the maximum you would be willing to pay for the unit right there. For instance say the bid is at $200 and the most you would consider paying is $800, then walk right up to him and bid "$800!" Now he has to go $825 or $850 to win it. Don't do it every time though, do it a couple of times then leave him alone cause he will try to drop a unit on you. Now he never knows when you are going to blow the bid up!

If he's got any sense he will move on to messing with someone else.  ;)

Good Luck!

Re: I think someone has it out for me...
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2013, 12:14:49 PM »
I wonder if me and you have had any run ins. I am from the Fayetteville area but travel to Aberdeen/Rockingham/Whiteville areas. I have been close to Raleigh as well with places like Smithfield/Wendell/Clayton.

I pretty much stay within Raleigh/Durham/Cary. Sometimes I'll venture out toward Chapel Hill and if there's a bunch of lockers down to Fuquay/Angier. If I go to Clayton/Garner it'll be a legal ad posting only. Nowhere to be found online.

I couple of questions HomeGrown,

Is he a seasoned vet and are you a relative newbie? or are you more a regular and he a newbie? It seems like with a childish response like 825! Now go away already! he is not a professional.

My hunches are, he is a seasoned regular (although not a professsional) and you are bidding on units in his "sweet spot" thereby creating competition for him. In smaller markets, just showing up to certain auctions is infringing on someones sweet spot. You also stand out in the crowd, so you might be drawing more attention then normal 6'4" tall, 350 lbs.? .....etc....etc........etc...

I've been attending storage auctions since I've been out of high school. My grandfather owned a used goods store in NJ and I would help him out with loading/unloading and he would show me what to look for, values of things, etc. When I moved to NC, I was on the circuit locally. I cut my teeth with the "old pro's" and once they saw that I knew what I was looking at, and I was patient, staying in my budget not letting my feelings get the best of me, etc. I earned respect. Back then I didn't see this guy around... Anyway, when the TV shows broke and the HUGE crowds came and everything ran real expensive I dropped out and went back to a day job. Now that I own a business separate from auctions, I can do both. So I'm back out there..

My guess is, this guy thinks I'm new and is trying to run me off.. When I first came back, I asked one of my old buddies who he was and he told me a little of his back story. When I described this person, Tom, to my friend; I described him as a "redneck Willy Wonka".. all in fun, I am a comedian after all :) I'm thinking that got back to Tom and now he's got it out for me.

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Re: I think someone has it out for me...
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2013, 12:50:29 PM »

My guess is, this guy thinks I'm new and is trying to run me off.. When I first came back, I asked one of my old buddies who he was and he told me a little of his back story. When I described this person, Tom, to my friend; I described him as a "redneck Willy Wonka".. all in fun, I am a comedian after all :) I'm thinking that got back to Tom and now he's got it out for me.

 :D :D "Redneck Willy Wonka!" LOL!  :D :D Trying to imagine what that even looks like! Are we talking Gene Wilder Willy Wonka or Johnny Depp Willy Wonka?

About the trying to run you off thing, yea just part of the game, but people still gotta watch thier attitude and thier mouths at the auctions. I have befriended quite a few people in my local auction scene and the opinion seems to be about the same newbie, new regular, or old-timer. Most everyone wishes all the OTHER people would drop out, most everyone wishes the OTHER bidders would stop running the prices up, most everyone wishes THEY could win ALL the units they can handle per auction or per month and only pay the bare minimum of what they are willing to pay, most everyone wishes the OTHER people would back off and let THEM win, etc,etc.

Re: I think someone has it out for me...
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2013, 12:56:45 PM »
:D :D "Redneck Willy Wonka!" LOL!  :D :D Trying to imagine what that even looks like! Are we talking Gene Wilder Willy Wonka or Johnny Depp Willy Wonka?

Picture Gene Wilder with Willy Wonka hair under a trucker cap with a flannel type shirt.