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Anyone sell on the Deep Web?
« on: November 25, 2013, 12:12:14 PM »
Just curious if anyone has ever tried selling on the deepweb as in the one you need a TOR browser to access. Obviously its more meant for black market goods but maybe if someone mainstream hopped on they'd have no competition? I guess that also brings up why need the anonymity to buy a toaster but heck who knows.

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Re: Anyone sell on the Deep Web?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 08:58:11 AM »
Interesting, never heard of it, would like to know more.

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Re: Anyone sell on the Deep Web?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 09:34:43 AM »
Interesting, never heard of it, would like to know more.

The deep web is the subject of the Time magazine cover story on November 11, 2013.

Two statements from the story:

1) The web we know...19 terabytes of info....the deep web...7,500 terabytes of info.
    It is content not indexed by search engines, including illegal commerce sites like Silk Road,
    password protected sites, databases and old websites.

2) Topics of interest:
   
    fake passports, hit men, drugs, explosives, child porn, stolen identities, counterfeit currency, guns, etc.


Given #2 above are we still interested in selling an old lamp there ?

Bitcoins?  A whole other story. They are non-traceable and only have value for buying other things with bitcoins, though I suspect there is a place on the deep web where you can trade bitcoins for real cash...at a discount...giving money laundering a  new role in the 21st century.  A bitcoin's value fluctuates....currently in the $200 plus range.

The deep web?  Possible new home of Storme and Mr. Andersen.  ;D



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Re: Anyone sell on the Deep Web?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 10:06:15 AM »
The deep web gets a bad rap because most people who have heard of it only heard of it because of the shhutting down of silkroad the black market site. it was actually developed by the navy. its basically unindexed sites and using a tor browser to get there everything you do is encrypted and bounced off a bunch of servers and stuff.

probably not a ton of people doing their online shopping on tor and deep web but there's a lot of people out there crazy about internet security with all this nsa stuff and you got a lot of prepper type people who are all about anonymity and everything. there's probably very few people selling on deepweb so could be a good niche.

probably not for the guy wanting to buy a tshirt but maybe survival supplies, tools, precious metals, etc.

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Re: Anyone sell on the Deep Web?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2013, 06:54:08 PM »
The deep web is the subject of the Time magazine cover story on November 11, 2013.

Two statements from the story:

1) The web we know...19 terabytes of info....the deep web...7,500 terabytes of info.
    It is content not indexed by search engines, including illegal commerce sites like Silk Road,
    password protected sites, databases and old websites.

2) Topics of interest:
   
    fake passports, hit men, drugs, explosives, child porn, stolen identities, counterfeit currency, guns, etc.


Given #2 above are we still interested in selling an old lamp there ?

Bitcoins?  A whole other story. They are non-traceable and only have value for buying other things with bitcoins, though I suspect there is a place on the deep web where you can trade bitcoins for real cash...at a discount...giving money laundering a  new role in the 21st century.  A bitcoin's value fluctuates....currently in the $200 plus range.

The deep web?  Possible new home of Storme and Mr. Andersen.  ;D

hmm, sounds like the beginning of the Matrix movie or some kind of blackhole a person could get sucked into if they are not careful.

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Re: Anyone sell on the Deep Web?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2013, 01:35:44 PM »

1) The web we know...19 terabytes of info....the deep web...7,500 terabytes of info.
    It is content not indexed by search engines, including illegal commerce sites like Silk Road,
    password protected sites, databases and old websites.



2) Topics of interest:
   
    fake passports, hit men, drugs, explosives, child porn, stolen identities, counterfeit currency, guns, etc.

As to these two issues. Yeah it gets a bad rep for being just a blackmarket thing but you know how you always hear once something goes on the internet it's there forever, at least to someone who knows how to search for that stuff. THere's actually pretty practical uses. Say Chicago Tribune did an article a few years ago they took offline, you could find it on the deep web so for researching things where there's dead links and stuff like that you can still find info which is not online anymore.


Given #2 above are we still interested in selling an old lamp there ?

Granted, there's really not a need for the secrecy and anonymity selling an old lamp but heck coffee shops, pizza places and other brick and mortar stores are accepting bitcoins as are websites selling normal non illegal products like alpaca socks for example. The nice thing for sellers is there's no chargebacks, no paypal disputes, no credit card disputes, once you have your payment the buyer cant take it back. Its also an instantaneous transtion no waiting for funds to clear.


Bitcoins?  A whole other story. They are non-traceable and only have value for buying other things with bitcoins, though I suspect there is a place on the deep web where you can trade bitcoins for real cash...at a discount...giving money laundering a  new role in the 21st century.  A bitcoin's value fluctuates....currently in the $200 plus range.

You don't even need to go to the deepweb to change bitcoins for cash. It's a legit service provided by sites like coinbase. You can also place ads on Craigslist and sell them on there. Meet in person, get cash and then send the bitcoins to that persons wallet. There's also sites like localbitcoins where you can convert your bitcoins back into cash.

There really isn't any regulation in place yet but the government loves to tax and regulate everything and they are concerned about money laundering so they are looking into it now. The thing is bitcoin was designed so there's no central control and so it cannot be regulated so we'll see how things play out.

https://coinbase.com/?utm_campaign=user-referral

Site above is probably the most common way to turn money into bitcoins and bitcoins back into money.

Here's also a quick article if anyone is interestd basically breaking down bitcoins and how they work, how they are held, and how to buythem for beginners.

http://rulesforrebels.blogspot.com/2013/12/bitcoins-for-absolute-beginners-how-to.html


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