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Online Storage Auctions / Re: Online Storage Auction Websites
« on: September 25, 2012, 12:04:33 PM »
Hi Cobia,

I am Kevin with Sealed Online Bids. I haven't checked this site in quite a while (months), but what a coincidence.

Actually, we are almost rounding our THIRD year of business. We honestly started this business model before the TV shows even began airing the teasers - probably a year before the shows started.

Business is great for us and growing daily - if you have any direct questions, please feel free to ask.

Have a great day,


Kevin Gorzny
Sealed Online Bids
801-893-1345

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Sort of wish we had a site like this in GA.  That way I could save my gas money for some of these trash units.  That unit looks to be so/so.  At $1,500 it would sell in my area looking like that or maybe cheaper.  Some of the other units that had 2 days still on them were more reasonable in price.

Actually, correction - we are training a facility in Hiram, Georgia next week. From there it will start to snowball as it always does.

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Sort of wish we had a site like this in GA.  That way I could save my gas money for some of these trash units.  That unit looks to be so/so.  At $1,500 it would sell in my area looking like that or maybe cheaper.  Some of the other units that had 2 days still on them were more reasonable in price.

Hi - this is Kevin from Sealed Online Bids. Just a quick FYI - we'll be in your area by the end of the summer!

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West / Re: Notice of sale in the paper or online..
« on: September 07, 2011, 11:31:01 PM »
The managers at the facilities *should* be very helpful and informative. It may be an aspect of their business that they do not enjoy, but it is their job.

Most of the managers I have met (and I work with hundreds) are very friendly - they should be to you as well.

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West / Re: Notice of sale in the paper or online..
« on: September 04, 2011, 11:29:25 PM »
Get in direct contact with the facilities themselves. Many times they'll put you on their email or call list and notify you when they are conducting auctions.

(and FYI - most of the time they self storage businesses will be posting their required notices in obscure (cheap) weekly legal publications). But there is no consistency to this in all reality. It is better to get in contact with the managers of the facilities.


Kevin
Sealed Online Bids .com
A central resource for online storage auctions.

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@ineedaauction: Georgia. Not going to let the cat out of the bag for our entire attack plan unit it is in full swing, but there may be a few people planted in the Atlanta area to start driving auctions to our service, by the end of the year.



Interesting idea, and seems to be kicking off.  The more competition, the more choices there is for everyone.  I'ts another option, which is good.  Any word on Georgia yet?

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Storage Facilities / Re: Do all facilities have auctions?
« on: September 04, 2011, 11:13:25 PM »
Most larger operations hold auctions as the laws require (and allow).

But it really is up to the manager / district manager / owner. A lot of the properties will do anything necessary to avoid an auction (accepting small payments, etc).

In addition, storage businesses in small towns rarely have them - everyone knows everyone and they work something out. Not to mention the fact that in smaller towns, the rental prices are drastically lower.

There are a lot of other factors too of course - facilities in nicer neighborhoods will seldom have them, etc etc.

I've also heard stories from quite a few clients that hated the live auction process so much, they would go at least 6 months before doing anything about the unpaid rent.

Legally, yes, they all have them. Whether they execute the lien process may be another story, depending on the owner. In bigger cities, you can count on auctions happening.

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@ChefJ - good points indeed. I know that our selling prices are typically higher than a live auction, but if you want apply the math and logic to that statement, we're simply driving more people to the auctions which creates more competition and of course bumps prices up. From what I'm told, the high-end units that sell in the 3-5K range are about the same as live auctions, but the difference really lies in the smaller units that would typically go for $50 at a live auction (with 20 people present) - with us they may hover around $200-$300.

But the one thing I've found is, it is very hard to lay down a table of averages. Every sale is different. I've seen some people get GREAT deals.

Also think about - as we grow, we'll have more and more auctions listed which will open the door for better deals as well from the larger menu.

As far as the cash-only sale - most of them still only accept cash. Once the auction closes, the buyer has to show up to the facility location within 24 hours with cash. Some do accept credit card by phone, some credit card in person only, but most still prefer cash.


I'm interested in how inflated the prices will get once the viewing base gets out of hand.  Good for you bad for the buyer.  I own a restaurant and understand that business is business, but this kind of business may kill off the industry once people begin paying retail for every unit.  I am interested to see what the future holds.
I also like cash only auctions,  keeps many of the undesireables from bidding to the extreme as they can't use the credit card that they will eventually default on to purchase the locker.
Sometimes I'm just bitter.

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If you're looking for information on how to improve it and get more business, especially on the photography end, let me know.  I'm an appraiser in my other job, but looking at what you're presenting, there are definitely ways to improve on it.  

@Benluby - Of course there are ways to improve it - there always will be. But as far as photography goes, a lot of it lies in the hands of the managers that are taking the photos. We really don't have anything to do with the actual photography itself, which is the key important element. We send all of our managers Photography Guides on how to do their best (targeted information pertaining to photographing storage units), but it falls on deaf ears at times.

As far as what I was looking for in the posting of this thread - mostly just feature requests, "I'd like to see this, or that - can you do this?", etc. We have a web dev team that is constantly working in the application. I guess I'm also looking for some devil's advocate statements or impressions to help me clarify to the public what we're about, able to do and plan to do.

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@rulesforrebels - In the beginning, I heard a lot of negativity from the "live auction regulars" as we call them. A bunch of "it'll never work - I have to see it in person." But it's working and working really well. Just as bwd111 said above, his best (read: most profitable) finds have come from us and he's been doing this for almost 10 years. Even he was a big skeptic in the beginning. He'll tell you, among many others, that being there in person isn't as necessary as you're eluding to.

Also note - our software is in constant development. We're working on a feature now that will provide much more detail in regards to the unit's contents.

But I'm glad that it sounds as though you have a pretty open mind about it. For you, my biggest pitch is the fact that you can follow your live auction schedule around all day long, day after day, and may come home empty-handed. Lots of efficiency potentially lost. With our service, you have upwards of 7 days to study the contents, bid on only things you are interested in, then make that drive to simply pay and vacate the unit.

Funny you mention the fact that the industry will never be the same since the advent of the TV shows. We actually started this business before the shows came out (almost a year before). The shows certainly have helped us, but we had our biggest client locked in before the shows even started.


I'm not that familiar with your company but think the online auctions are a unique and kinda cool idea. That said personally though attending auctions can be a pain in the butt I kind of enjoy the whole process of making my auctino schedule for the day going to the auctions, being able to physically see the unit and every nook and cranny not just what someone took a picture of.

I don't ever think this business will be back to what it was but eventually I think this whole fad surrrounding the storage auction thing is going to die off and this is comming from someoen who has ebooks, sells lists, etc.

I'm all about the whole work smarter not harder but the actual process of buying the units has to be an in person detailed decision if you want to consistantly buy quality units and get them at a good price.

In my mind if someone can't take the time to attend an auction which in a  is a lot easier and more fun than the process of selling stuff I highly doubt they are going to be at the flea markets on the weekends at 6am or running all over town to consignment shops, dropping off craigslist sales or whatever else.

It is a cool concept and pretty much every type of sale venture and purchase is available on the internet so I suppose there will always be a market for it.

I''ll have to check out your website, I suppose I should have done that before commenting on something I know nothing about really but it is very interesting and I'll check it out. Curious to see if I may change my mind and decide to take a shot at online atuff if pics are good it seems like you can get a good idea of the unit and its contents.

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I know these kind of questions are going to get asked alot in this thread, any known plans for NC?

@Fayettenam Man - no problem at all. I haven't heard anything about the Carolinas, but there are definitely enough big cities in NC for our plan of attack. Various trade publications have led us toward certain hot-spots and some are surprising. Will we end up there? Definitely. Just not sure when.

Like i said above, we are interviewing new sales personnel right now - some will be starting in the next couple weeks. Depending on how this goes and how much of a management load our Sales Manager can handle, I'm hearing that we'll keep hiring and hiring until we are in every state in the US. The market is there, the demand and the customer base is there; it's just a matter of time. And hopefully not much time.

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@drbecker - Washington: right now the closest thing we have going on in your general region is Vancouver. Washington (Seattle namely) is coming, but actual times are yet to be determined. It depends if the people making the decisions above me plan to hire someone in EVERY major city in the US. i have been told what the primary cities are, but I've also heard the plan to put a few sales reps in every city in the US with a population of a million or more (then work their way down to outlying regions).

Lots going on, lots to do yet.

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BigBizzz - The same company that is bringing us the new Texas locations, is also bringing us another 300-400 facilities in quite a few different western regions and states (through numerous affiliations). California, LA specifically, will fall into this deal. I'm hoping to see California rolling by late fall. We are working on other tactics that will hopefully kick in even faster. Speed to market is our focus right now.

Keep an eye on us - like I mentioned above, we post any breakthroughs in content to Facebook as soon as we can make it public.

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jrossjr79: Texas in general is a big push for us right now, mostly because of the demand and the huge physical size of the territory.

We actually just secured a new self storage business that has 6 locations in Texas - Austin, Allen, Forney, Grand Prairie, Murphy and Terrell (we will announce who the self storage company is on Facebook once the ink dries).

We don't have reps placed in Texas yet, but that is in the process. From what I'm told, the plan is to get sales personnel out in the field targeting Dallas, Houston and San Antonio in an attempt to get a triangle-effect of coverage going.


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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: local auction company BUSTED!!
« on: August 31, 2011, 06:47:23 PM »
This portion of the rumor isn't true:

"Then a storage company nation wide was not paying the the tenant the rest of the money owed to them after the auction the money would go to the employees and was called a bonus."

I know what company he is talking about and I can say with absolute certainty that this is not the case. They always make an attempt to send the excess funds to the delinquent tenant; if they cannot be reached, that money goes to the state, just as it should. (The original poster and I already discussed this. )

Rumors seem to fly all over the place at the live auctions. Many...untrue.


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