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No, the notices are more like this: ABC storage facility will be auctioning off the following units on VirtualStorageAuction.com. Auction begins on March 28th and ends on April 5th at 12:00 PM.

Or, for states where online storage auctions are questionable. ABC storage facility will be auctioning off the following units on VirtualStorageAuction.com and conducting an In-Person sale. Online auction begins on March 28th and ends on April 5th at 12:00 PM. Live Sale begins April 5th at 1:00 PM. Units will be sold to the highest overall bidder.

As you can see, it doesn't take any longer than a tradition sale would.

Yes, a live auction buyer could back out and the auctioneer would be able to sell the unit RIGHT THEN to the 2nd highest buyer (if the 2nd highest bidder hadn't left the scene) (there is another thread about that happening). On the other hand the online auction buyer could possibly wait a bit (day or two) to decide to pay or not? Is THAT possible? If he backed out two days after the auction ended, then then the 2nd or 3rd bidder had changed their minds as well, the day count starts to add up.

I think the TIME FACTOR here is an important issue for facilities which the point one of the posters above was making.

In your quote directly above, I just don't understand how the online auction is happening just as fast a regular auction. It has a 5 or 10 day spread as opposed to the one hour live auction. Again, maybe I'm just dense. Maybe some other posters here will have something to say one way or the other that will make me more enlightened.


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quote author=Travis link=topic=3875.msg25412#msg25412 date=1364223930]
They don't have to wait any longer than they normally would. They still have to place legal notices in the newspaper. The auction can begin whenever they're ready.
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If I read the legal notices correctly they might say: Auction, April 5, 1 p.m. (at such and such physical address).
People show up, auction happens, money paid, lkr cleaned out. Lkr available to re rented out to a new person.

A legal notice for an online auction MIGHT read like this (I hardly read them, so this isn't totally accurate).

Online auction of Lkr #456 to be held online STARTING April 5, 1 p.m. and ending April 15, 1 p.m. (followed by details on URL for online auction, terms of payment, etc, etc.

Seems like there's some lag time in there to me for re-renting the lkr, but maybe I'm just plain wrong as I am the average schlub who buys used to buy these things on a fairly regular basis.

I wonder if it isn't easier for an online buyer to back out of a deal than it is for a person who actually attends. There is a certain anonimity to the online experience after all. AGAIN, I don't know all the details about registering, bidding, etc as I have no interest in pursuing this avenue of buying. I think buying a lkr online is different than buying something from eBay online.

As to picking items (as opposed to buying lkrs) yes, THAT works for me as it's all right in front of me. I won't promote that kind of buying here (as I have no vested interest in doing so) but if someone hasn't tried it, they might want to.

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We'll have to agree to disagree.

I certainly don't buy lockers based SOLELY on how they smell, but it IS a consideration. I've seen junky looking lkr pics on some of the online auctions and the ability to smell them MIGHT make a difference. You said you buy based on what you can see and you promote the zoom feature of photos. On the other hand I wonder if the photographers take a picture of the pot in the corner with urine or worse inside. Editing is what it's all about and the photos will show the best items that's for sure.

As to letting the crowd make a decision for me, that doesn't happen either, but I don't think even you can deny that knowledge about the former lkr owner from the manager or from people who knew the former lkr owner can be denied as a helper in making a decision.

I have known former locker owners (some of whom have been auction buyers or flea market sellers) and I can assure you I didn't bid based on that knowlege. Meanwhile other buyers who didn't know those facts were buying based on "what they could see" .... stage or not, they didn't know.

It will be interesting to see what other buyers here think about online auctions as a viable opportunity or a future leader in sales of auction lockers.

I have absolutely nothing to gain by stating what I think about the online auctions. Can you Travis legitimately say the same thing?


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New to Storage Auctions? / Re: lost items
« on: March 25, 2013, 09:31:54 AM »
Why did you lose your unit?

Former owner has made no response to THAT question as of 3/25/2013.

His out of state location compared to where the locker was doesn't bode well for getting anything back when so much time has passed.

We don't know what kind of relationship the former owner had with the property managers, but from the many managers I've talked to about tenants who have lost their goods to a lien sale, the vast majority of them are combative and take little to no resposility for what happened. They take the attitude "You can't sell MY stuff!".

On the other hand, some of those folks ARE bailing out their stuff before the lien sale happens and we can thank the TV SHOWS for that. Good for the lkr owners, good for the storage facilites, not so good for us as the number of lkrs for sale has declined especially over the last year. (in my area, IMO)

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Over the 9 years I've been selling on eBay I never really paid a lot of attention to the fees; my feeling has always been that for buying audience coverage eBay can't be beat, and if I buy correctly I can make money on eBay despite the fees.

It wasn't too many years ago that some sellers would start items at 99 cents to avoid the higher fees eBay charge if you started an item say at $25. One of my friends was interested in saving that extra $1.00 or so in fees (at that time) and would start items at 99 cents on a regular basis. His thought (mostly logical) was that any item worth its salt was going to get the $25 bid (and up) anyway and he would save $1.00 in fees.

Needless to say he sold a few items for 99 cents with only one bid and sometimes for $6.95 with 5 bids, but oh well. Guess he and I both had our ways of looking at it.

I will sometimes offer the same item on Clist at the same time and either at the same or a downsized price since there would be no fees involved. Sometimes I put a disclaimer in the eBay ad telling about the local listing and my "right" to end the eBay listing at any time whether a bid as been made or not.

Fredg's response just above seems right on the money for what is happening with fees.

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Over 120 days ago this thread got its last response.

In the last 60 days the facility 7 miles away from me went back to live auctions with a real auctioneer and crowd.

They used the online approach three times in six months. I haven't talked to the management there as the local person behind the counter isn't open to a conversation about the business, but I can only assume that for whatever reason they weren't happy with the online auction approach.


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Only time will tell if online auctions will "make it" in the long run. I don't think they will. Travis has his sources he goes by and the four major auctioneers in my area are my sources. They don't hold out much long term hope for online auctions either, but what do they know?

The fact is that EACH interested party has their own perspective on any business and it is colored by their personal interest; to wit:

1) Travis has a vested interest in seeing online auctions succeed so his new website will succeed "free" or not.
2) Regular auctioneers have a vested interest in seeing online auctions fail...their interest is obvious.
3) We as auction buyers are the ones who will determine if online auctions flourish or not...personally, I'm not buying   into onlines for the following reasons:

a) I don't feel I can get a good enough view through pictures (I don't care how many they post)
b) Until smell-o-vision comes to the internet and they can effectively give me the smells of a locker in question. Sorry.
c) The sense of what the buying crowd feels about a locker can not be measured in online auctions.
d) I can't talk to a storage manager (or other buyers) about a locker or locker owner history before making a bidding
    decision.
e,f, g, h, i, etc) other members here can provide other reasons I haven't thought of.

Sorry, I'm just not buying online auctions and I mean that in more ways than one.

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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: Survey Part 2
« on: March 24, 2013, 10:04:59 AM »
I think I'm safe to say I won't be bidding on any online storage locker auctions.  There have been two in my town (just 7 miles from me) and I didn't bid on either of them. 

One of my cronies did, won it and regretted it.

Meantime, the facility that had both those auctions has gone back to the regular auction format with an auctioneer in person....along with a flock of what P.T. Barnum and other carnies called "suckers". You know, "There's one born every minute."


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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: Survey Part 1
« on: March 24, 2013, 09:50:04 AM »
Ah, that seems to make sense. It makes even more sense if you "...get enough data". I suspect that's a whole ballgame of its own.  Somehow I'm thinking a response rate of less than 1% isn't enough data to convince prospective site users, but maybe.


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The Lounge / Why don't members here answer poll questions?
« on: March 24, 2013, 09:27:26 AM »
Over the last two years I've posed maybe 4 polls and several other polls were placed during that time as well by other members or administators.

Generally none of the polls has generated more than about 6 votes, though in March, 2013 one of them came up with 11 or so.

Considering there are roughly 3,000 members here one would think a poll could generate 30 votes at least...that's only 1%, but since roughly 2,900 people don't even post messages it should be no surprise that votes don't get cast either.


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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: Survey Part 2
« on: March 24, 2013, 09:08:47 AM »
This question doesn't make sense to me. IF someone purchased a locker online, one has to believe they would ONLY have done so if they were willing to drive to get the contents.

The second question posed makes more sense.

IMHO the question posed in "Survey 1" doesn't relate to the "Survey 2" question; I assume it was supposed to.

If I had been posing these questions I might have done so in the following manner:

1) Would you buy a storage locker through an online auction?
2) What would be the maximum distance you would drive to pick up a storage locker you bought online?

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I can't answer survey 2 because I won't be buying a locker online, so perhaps another mileage marker might have been zero miles. Then I could have answered it.

Edit:

The problem as I see it is HOW to even WRITE question #2. The offering I made just above doesn't work either.
Maybe it needs to be "What would be the maxiumum distance you would be willing to drive before even CONSIDERING buying an auction online?"

I know some readers here will say "You know what I mean, or what he meant" but if we can't communicate with words effectively it just leads to misunderstanding in some cases.

World politicians need to pick their words carefully, if they don't some lunatic in a kingdom somewhere might launch a missle due to some mistaken interpretation of what was said!  ;D


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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: Survey Part 1
« on: March 24, 2013, 08:57:02 AM »
Yep, it's deja vu all over again !

How many people will vote this time.

Edit:

After reading and re-reading this survey and survey2, I have figured out that the "twist" is they don't really relate to each other. The logic just isn't there as the online aspect throws a monkey wrench in the works.

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The Lounge / Re: Interresting Tidbits About The Forum
« on: March 23, 2013, 06:44:50 AM »
I would ask for more, but so far Travis hasn't even come up with the $100, so someone else will have to take the helm at his new website!  ;D

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The Lounge / Too Much Video Capability ?
« on: March 22, 2013, 11:25:28 PM »
You know you have too much video capability (and too much interest in video dramas) when you can do the following:

1) Record several hours of "flea market flip" on TIVO #1 while....

2) Recording an episode of "Touch" on TIVO #2 while....

3) Watching episode #1  of "Touch" on Netflix

All three things happening at the same time...and typing this note...that's multitasking (with a lot of electronic help).

I have to say I'm getting more use out of my Netflix streaming account than I am out of the Disc account though.
A year or so ago they lost their contract with STARZ who have a huge library of old and new films. Nflix didn't want to pay the tab. They lost a lot of customers over that.

Anyway, I've become addicted to EPISODIC TV watching...if you start something late (like last years first 12 episodes of "Touch") you can have a mini-marathon over a few days time!


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The Lounge / Re: I PREDICT......
« on: March 22, 2013, 04:53:09 PM »
Yet someone always seems to beat those odds.

"Always" is a very inclusive word. There are somethings that will "always" be true, but in general "always" doesn't apply "always". In the short run, always might work, but even then it doesn't always.

Is this an "always" true statement?

1. The sun will always come up.
    Nope, it doesn't really come up of course, but when the planet blows up some day for whatever reason, there   
    will be no sunrise as there will be no Earth and no people to see a sunrise.

There would be many other examples. I'm sure Travis will come up with some flip examples (still thinking of giving up his day job for a career in comedy.)

As to someone always beating the odds in the lottery. There have been several examples of the Powerball lottery not being won by ANYONE, and the same is even more true for the state lotteries which are smaller amounts. That's why they roll over to the next time....I'm not even sure how often a state lottery runs.

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1.
every time; on every occasion; without exception: He always works on Saturday.
2.
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