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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: Worth $80 ya think?
« on: November 14, 2011, 07:26:16 AM »
Looks like it turned out better then what I could see from that little bity picture.

@Big Bizz, if you could make $400 on what you could see in that little bity picture, I need to hire you to come work for me!

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"The Fast and The Furious"

Since doing this business I have been working my tail off, and every day is a new learning experience!

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Storage Facilities / Re: Are all the storage companys starting
« on: November 11, 2011, 11:48:15 AM »
In some parts of the country storage facilities have been accepting credit cards for payment of winning bid for years so in those areas it has just been part of the game for the regulars. In my area, none of the auctions accept credit cards that I know of. Allowing bidders to use credit cards is definitely a two-edged sword. On one hand it might put a lot more units out of the smart bidders reach, on the other hand it might run the amateurs out of business more quickly.

Did'nt want to use term "noobie" so used amateur instead. I think it is clear that the "cat is out of the bag" so to speak about storage auctions and I think we will continue to see more and more people attempt to get into this business. We are all "noobies" once, and thier is mixed opinion about what qualifies someone as not being a "newbie" anymore. Newbie has a tone of arrogance, like noone else has a right to get into this business. I think we should qualify it more as "serious newcomers" and "amateurs".

serious newcomers-being those who do their research and have a plan before going to auction and start bidding.

amateurs-being those who seemingly have done no research on storage auctions other then the TV shows, and make goofy mistakes like bidding $1000 on a $200 unit, throwing everything away they win in a unit cause they are just treasure hunting, not bringing a flashlight, locks, money, etc. Asking other bidders at the auction for information and advice so they can turn around and use it to compete directly with them, etc.

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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: Bidders without Flashlights
« on: November 11, 2011, 09:41:46 AM »
Okay, let me start by saying that I like to think I'm a pretty easy going guy and fairly generous to others within my realm, and am usually the first one to help people out. But quite frankly, it irks the hell out of me when people show up to an auction without a flashlight, then ask to borrow mine. My response is like, "really, you come unprepared and then want to use my tool so that you can get a better look at stuff to bid against me?"

Now why on Earth would I want to help someone bid against me, raise the bid, and cost me extra money or cause me to lose the unit altogether?

So am I being reasonable or just being a jerk?

In my opinion you are being completely reasonable, the excitment from the TV shows is NOT winding down and the bidding is still way to high and competative for anyone who wants or needs to do this for a living to give other bidders any advantage.

It's just like the noobs who come out and bid a $200 unit up to $800 then ask "So how do you find out about the other auctions going on?" Really, you think I am going to tell YOU how I find other auctions so you can show up there too with your Vegas Casino bidding habits?!

Same goes for "barrowing a lock". No, you can BUY a lock! if you are so unprepared as to actually bid on units and win, and not have a lock with you, then you get no sympathy from me. This is the school of hard knocks.

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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: Worth $80 ya think?
« on: November 11, 2011, 07:46:56 AM »
It depends, If I wanted the golf clubs for myself I would maybe bid $80 on this unit. Bidding on this unit to resell, I would'nt bid more then $25. I don't think you overpayed though because to be quite honest that unit would probably go for $50 to $90 to the highest bidder in my area right now.

I see $15-$25 in tackle boxes & cooler, $20-$25 golf club & bag (unless very recent and great brand name), is that a big flashlight? $3, $3 suitcase, some clothes? $3.

Cost Of Goods = $80
Fuel = $15 (average distance)
Flea Market Table Rental = $7
TOTAL COST = $102

Grand total at flea market = $44 - $59
Hidden items of worth ?

Profit/Loss on unit $102-$44 or $102-$59 = $(43-$58) loss

Need $58 worth of hidden items just to break even, and thats working for free! (no pay for your time and labor)

I hope everyone reading this forum is seeing how rediculous the TV shows have made the bidding on these units.

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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: How do you handle the guy that
« on: November 09, 2011, 07:15:13 AM »
You really need to get some research on this "whale". Going the route of just bidding him up on every unit he wants in hopes that he will back off on the units you want can be a fatal error for you. There is a belief that every bidder has thier limit as to how much they can spend. This is not necessarily the case. I know of multi-millionares who go to storage auctions and if you get on thier bad side you will NEVER win a unit and you can NEVER put enough pressure on them bidding wise. The other way to look at it is everybody has a limit to how much space they have thus how many units they can handle at one time. Maybe if there are enough auctions in your area you can just let this guy get what he wants early and then come in later in the day strong on your bidding. If he already has several units for the day he may not want to bid high on units later in the day.

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The Treasure Chest / Treasure story
« on: November 08, 2011, 08:12:02 AM »
This is a story told to me by another "newbie" locker buyer at auction.

His first unit purchased this year he paid $250. It was ALL junk, he was taking EVERYTHING to the dump. On the last tote he was loading he heard something "jingling" in the tote. He dug to the bottom and found a lock box. In the lock box was a collection of gold and silver coins. The retail value of the coin collection was $15,000!

Since then he has bought 8 more units (+ one that day) and all 8 units were complete dump runs! The other regular who was listening to the story basically said. "I'm not saying your lying, but I been doing this for seven years and have never seen anything like that in a unit!"

I personally beleive the story. My question for the group, how long before he spends through that $15,000 he found if he is taking everything to the dump from 9 units purchased? How long before he spends himself into bankruptcy trying to find another "once in a lifetime" locker score?

By-the-way, the locker he won that day was a 10 x 15 about 4 or 6 old filing cabinets up front, a dining room table set with 6 chairs (I sold the same set for $200) end tables, 10-12 boxes, particle board computer desk, and whatever was behind the filing cabinets we could not see. This unit was about 1/3 full. Winning bid $825.00!

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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: I have the keys and the title...
« on: November 08, 2011, 07:32:05 AM »
I would consult an attorney before doing anything rash like hiring a repo man. Can you tell us what year and make of car it is without tipping your hand so to speak?

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Stories about Storage Auctions / Re: Boycott "Buyer's Premium"
« on: November 03, 2011, 07:30:47 AM »
Boycotting will not work. You will never get every single buyer to do that and failing to secure a zero attendance just means those that showup will get a better deal. You just have to be able to do the math as you are bidding and calculate the extra fees into your bid. If it's still a deal, buy it, if not, then let it go.
If I think a locker is worth $300.00, I know I have to stop bidding at about $260.00 when they are collecting tax and buyer's premiums. 260 x.10=$26 (premium): 286x.07=$20 (tax, approx.). (Personally, I think it is illegal to collect the tax on the buyer's premium but they do.)

I personally love the auctions with the 10% buyers premiums because so many people forget about it when they start bidding especially the newbies. Conversation at last buyer premium auction.
NOOB "I don't know if I should have spent $750 on that locker, but hopefully it will work out."
ME "No, you just spent $825 on that locker. Good luck with that one."
NOOB sullen look on face, walks away
Said locker particulars 10 x 15 3/4 full, roaches ran for cover when door went up, nasty red couch, washer, Alabama luggage (garbage bags filled primarily with Wal-Mart clothing), Wal-Mart bike (must of been what sent the bidding to the moon  ::) ) nasty boxes, junk, etc.

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My Sanity :\

Very funny, but I have to disagree. Since doing this business I have become a much more sober, and introspective person. Looking thru the leftovers of, in many cases, destroyed lives has made me much more grateful for my life and my family and all I have. I have also almost completely lost the desire for material things. I think I have actually found some personal sanity in doing this business.

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Craiglstauction, gave the best advice, let it sink in.

When you go to an auction and none or most of the regulars are not there including the local whales it is a very good indication that the facility is known for either going through the units and get all the valuables out, or selling nothing but left over junk and garbage, or staging the units to increase the bidding, or the combination of all three!

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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: There are is couple that buys units
« on: November 02, 2011, 07:46:55 AM »
and ways over pays each time but thats not the point. The point is they refuse to buy a trailer and rent a uhaul each time and there house is full way over full of stuff. The idea is sell what you have then buy more and at 100 bucks each time you rent a uhaul plus cas its cheaper to buy a trailer. I guess when your addicted to what they call a hobby you dont care what you spend.

It's easy to get overloaded with inventory and continue to buy at the auctions. I have put myself on a buying freeze the next couple of weeks until I get some more stuff sold, especially all the clothes I have accumulated.

(DESCLAIMER: OF COURSE I WILL NOT LET MY COMPETITORS GET A REALLY NICE UNIT FOR CHEAP, AND IF I SEE A UNIT THAT APPEARS TO BE A REAL MONEY MAKER I WILL NOT PASS IT UP  ;D)

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business education and experience can make a big difference in the success of opening a re-sale/thrift storefront. I would imagine someone who has run a restuarant, laundrymat, lawncare service, professional office, etc. would have an advantage in running a store over others who have never ran a business before. The relationship between fixed cost and gross sales is very important in determining if a storefront is feasible for your situation. I would think the higher the fixed operating cost you have on the business, the more gross sales you need to cover the operating costs, thus the more inventory you need, thus more storage units won. Even if you have low rent/overhead you still need to have a good marketing/advertising strategy to get customers in your doors. One of the benefits of having a storefront is people will bring you stuff to buy from them and you can pretty much set the price you want to pay for what they have and refuse all the junk. You can't do that bidding on storage units!

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Stories about Storage Auctions / Re: Hows this for irony
« on: October 31, 2011, 12:54:09 PM »
How much did you pay for this lkr?

Did your original "spidey senses" give you no hints? 

Were you bidding on the "possibility" in boxes or did you use your complex algorithm forumula to make the decision to buy it?



As you know, there are other ways of getting lockers other then "competative auction". I purchased 4-10 x 10 lockers on the down low for $200, so basically $50 a locker. It turns out now that 2 of the 4 were owned by this thrift store. I think the lockers were slightly staged for my benefit. Nicer stuff showing right up front, but after getting into them a lot of garbage and junk, but as it is turning out some of this better collectible merchandise is actually mixed in with the household garbage, unsold yard sale/thrift store inventory, and leftover junk. Just about every box and tote is a "mixed bag" of stuff so I need to go through the rest of it more slowly.

I have gotten sellable merchandise although no real "home runs" from this contact before, so I thought the price would be worth it.

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Stories about Storage Auctions / Re: Hows this for irony
« on: October 31, 2011, 09:06:56 AM »
*UPDATE*

While sorting through all the junk my "spidey senses" told me to research some of the stuff on EBay. Glad I did. So far I found a vintage Hot Wheels car that sells for $10 - $30, two other vintage Hot Wheels in the $5-$10 range, an old block building set sells for $15 - $50, old deck of cards unopened $10-$20. Some kind of industrial sculpture that is being shown at an art gallery, no estimate on value yet.

Apparently the people who ran the thrift store did'nt research anything that came in there store on EBay, Etsy, Bonanza, etc. Me thinks I know part of the reason why they went out of business. They were trying to sell used plastic food containers from Walmart and plastic cups from fast food places for more than they were asking for the vintage Hot Wheels!

The bad news (or good), now I have to go back through 4 garbage cans, and 20 boxes of garbage to make sure I did'nt throw away any good stuff myself.  :P

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