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Title: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: rulesforrebels on January 29, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Obviously all reality shows use a lot of editing and make story lines as real life isn't as exciting as a story line but I would at least like the characters on the show to be real people and not actors and like the show to have some basis in reality.

I was watching animal planet the other day while channel surfing and there were guys catching a snake. Taking a closer look I noticed one of the guys was Ton, the bald guy from auction hunters. This leads me to believe both these guys are actors and the show is totally fake.

Obviously Storage Wars drums up drama and makes a story line but I'm pretty sure all those guys are actually real people who attend auctions and run resale shops.

This kinda ruins the show for me. I can't say I'm surprised though. I used to watch Black Gold the oil show based in Odessa Texas. A buddy of mine recently moved down there and told me they were actually having casting calls for guys to be on teh show. Again, another "reality" show taht uses actors and is totally fake.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on January 30, 2011, 11:55:35 AM
Nope, not fake.  Modified reality though.  See this thread.

http://storageauctionforums.com/index.php?topic=581.0

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: AuctionHunter on January 31, 2011, 12:05:20 AM
I looked up Ton on imdb.com and found he was a main charter on a show called Venom In Vegas, and a security guard on CSI:NY along with a extra biker on a show called the fall of night. So it appears he is a actor. Two of the shows Venom in Vegas and Auction Hunters were produced by Gurney Productions. Allen Haff has a hugh list of TV shows.
Most likely it is just a fake reality show.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on January 31, 2011, 12:28:07 AM
Well, as Gabby Hayes used to say, "I'll be horn swaglled !"

Now we can look up Gabby Hayes as the younger members here won't know him.

Interesting to see on IMDB the filmography of Haff. The bio at the top of the page talks about his
antique interest, but barely mentions any of the film stuff except for one brief note on My House Is Worth What?

But, given an actor's bulk of time on unemployment, maybe the auction biz is a better money maker for him than acting.

The dope on Ton is probably equally interesting.

Never occurred to me to look either of them up. But then, I didn't know an Atari 2600 was valued at $250 either.... ;D
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: the teacher on January 31, 2011, 12:49:16 AM
Sure it's fake, and I like Storage Wars better.  But, it's entertaining and I'll still watch!
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: The Young Gun on January 31, 2011, 06:39:02 PM
They probably use the show's money to buy up hundreds and hundreds of units while filming it all, and only a few of those hundreds make the cut.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: sbell111 on February 18, 2011, 12:09:28 PM
The show is based in Southern California.  Given that you can't swing a snake around in SoCal without hitting an actor, I have no problem believing that these guys can be both actors and storage unit buyers.

From Ton's bio: 

An accomplished animal handler and wrangler, Jones supplements auction hunting with his Reptile Rescue and Wildlife Services business that manages bobcats, mountain lions and venomous snakes.

From Allen's bio:

Throughout his television career, Haff maintained his resale business and eventually left hosting to focus on Angel City Estate Sales in 2006. In 2008 Haff started Hollywood & Vintage, a high volume liquidation company specializing in movie memorabilia and vintage collectibles that he operates from his office & warehouse in Los Angeles.

Do I believe that the show is produced to make it appear that these two guys are storage auction savants or that making a killing in the biz is easy?  Yes.

Do I believe that the show is completely faked and these guys are not actually storage unit buyers?  No.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on April 12, 2011, 09:28:21 PM
April, 2011 episodes....heavily loaded with excellent finds.

Show hits new bottom in fake quality.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: C4talyst on April 21, 2011, 02:27:08 AM
Both shows include staged units in my opinion. Information was posted on the Storage Wars forum several months ago that really called one of their units into question.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: rulesforrebels on April 21, 2011, 11:04:36 AM
I expect some staging and fakeness howewver auction hunters seems even more fake than storage wars, the characters also seem fake as well.

I dont know why they never show crappy units, personally I think it would make it more reastic and exciting wondering whether they will hit the jackpot or lose a few hundred bucks.

I'm sure there have been one or two but I don't believe I've ever seen a bust unit on storage wars. I know a few have looked to be a bust and then they pull out an 1800 dollar vase at the last second but can't recall a total bust unit.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Mr Andersen on April 21, 2011, 11:25:07 AM
Both shows include staged units in my opinion. Information was posted on the Storage Wars forum several months ago that really called one of their units into question.

And your opinion are based upon what? That it is on tv, and that they made a show from it?
COPS are on tv, thats not fake.

I know someone who again know Don, and Don who is the man behind this show would not accept fake units. Have they been doing something to the units? maybe, they have from what i know started to block out names on boxes and clothing. This is to protect a theird party who does not wnat their name on tv. This is pretty commen in the tv world.

Auction hunters am i not a big fan of, it shows to much the upside of the business.
Storage wars i think is a good show, based on genuine finds. Someone mention that one locker of toys was from an outside collection and used as a staged thing. Well if your friend know this for a fact, why don't you run down to the closest PD and file charges against the show for fruad??
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: gravell on April 21, 2011, 11:56:30 AM

I'm sure there have been one or two but I don't believe I've ever seen a bust unit on storage wars. I know a few have looked to be a bust and then they pull out an 1800 dollar vase at the last second but can't recall a total bust unit.

Humm you may want to pay a little bit closer attention to the Show, as Barry regularly loses money on his lockers and they have shown all of them losing money on their lockers.

Auction Hunters? I will agree they only show the great lockers and it is not too close to reality, however Storage Wars seems to be a bit more real. JMO!!!!!
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on April 21, 2011, 12:17:36 PM
Yep, AH has gone downhill. The show that did me in was when there were four lkrs at the site; two were crap; they got the good two that were left. One had the Quadzilla and the other had the hovercraft. The chances of that happening at all (existing in the same place) have got to be enormously high in the first place, but for them to get both? What, no other money there or people afraid to spend it?

On the other hand the most recent episode had them up agains G-Mar in Ft. Lauderdale. The G-mar spent about $6K and beat them out of 4 of the 6 lkrs there. So, there might be hope, but doubtful in the case of AH.

SW is getting better with more realism. I am still waiting for a dump run to be shown on either show.

All of this is my opinion.

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: moparornocar72 on April 21, 2011, 10:34:35 PM
Auction Hunters ran a special thing showing where they lost there ass bad on several units. Whether it was trying to dump a unit and ended up getting stuck or just buying a unit and not turning any profit. And what someone else said, barry loses money a lot but he always says he is in it for the collections of random and unique items.
do i believe that some of it is just acting and fake? yes
but in my opinion, if it were just random like us, then it wouldnt be much for tv would it?
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: rulesforrebels on April 22, 2011, 09:15:28 AM
I admittedly don't watch the show religiously if its on I'll watch it, wont tape it or go out of my way to see it.

Anyhow, as for Barry and bust units he normally makes it a bust homself from hwat I see.

I remember one episode where Jarred was complaining that Barry bought a unit nad just trashed and threw out everything in it because there was no antiques.

Barry seems like a collector so if there's not some cool antique he just doesn't care to even bother trying to unload the rest of the stuff in the unit.&

Look at the Suge night episode, he buys a box and when its full of clothes he's trying to sell items for like $10 in the parking lot.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on April 22, 2011, 09:27:27 AM

but in my opinion, if it were just random like us, then it wouldnt be much for tv would it?

That's certainly true, but I think the problem is that SOME of the people I've seen showing up at auctions
don't look like they are smart enough to figure out that MOST of the lkrs and MOST of the stuff in them
is just ordinary household stuff, not collectibles or even high-end household products. They either don't read the disclaimer at the start of the AH show or they just ignore it when they see the guys get a quad and a hovercraft back to back at the same facility.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on May 25, 2011, 10:03:43 AM
See more BIO information on the auction hunters at this link which has the guys
just WATCHING an auction in Garland, TX as they are in the state for filming of
their season FINALE, May 31, 2011. Actual finale site is undisclosed.


http://storageauctionforums.com/index.php?topic=1240.0
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on May 27, 2011, 09:59:10 PM
Well, it's pretty obvious. In the last episode, when they were referring to the finale, they showed a picture of Dallas.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: swords on October 16, 2011, 05:59:27 AM
I know this topic is old but I wanted to chime in and say of course Auction Hunters is fake. So is Storage Wars. Look, ever notice how Ton and Allen are experts on the rare antiques they find? They did their homework for the show. I have been to storage auctions and I never find rare or priceless stuff. Usually its junk or household items. Mostly apartment folks who have no room for their useless stuff.

These shows have folks who want to auction off their items and they contact the show, and these items get placed in different storage units. It makes no sense whatsoever that people who own priceless antiques and collectibles would not be able to afford the storage unit. Most people know better than to store valuables in these units anyway.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: alloro on October 16, 2011, 01:10:45 PM
Most people know better than to store valuables in these units anyway.

That could very well be the case where you live. But I've been around the country enough to know that different area breed different ways of thinking. Then there's the possibility that someone is going through a divorce and is trying to hide some valuables from their spouse. Then all of the sudden bank accounts or credit cards with the automatic payment to the storage facility get closed. Several months go by, the unit goes unpaid and finally its on the auction block. Then there's people whom die off and their family doesn't know the storage unit exists, next thing you know that one is up for auction as well.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: bwd111 on October 17, 2011, 09:43:37 AM
Obviously all reality shows use a lot of editing and make story lines as real life isn't as exciting as a story line but I would at least like the characters on the show to be real people and not actors and like the show to have some basis in reality.

I was watching animal planet the other day while channel surfing and there were guys catching a snake. Taking a closer look I noticed one of the guys was Ton, the bald guy from auction hunters. This leads me to believe both these guys are actors and the show is totally fake.

Obviously Storage Wars drums up drama and makes a story line but I'm pretty sure all those guys are actually real people who attend auctions and run resale shops.

This kinda ruins the show for me. I can't say I'm surprised though. I used to watch Black Gold the oil show based in Odessa Texas. A buddy of mine recently moved down there and told me they were actually having casting calls for guys to be on teh show. Again, another "reality" show taht uses actors and is totally fake.
Its called tv. And adv companys arent going to pay top dollar to advertise if the show cant keep the attention of the audience. Storage bors and AH shows make the ad companys money for a reason.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: ChefJ on October 17, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
I know this topic is old but I wanted to chime in and say of course Auction Hunters is fake. So is Storage Wars. Look, ever notice how Ton and Allen are experts on the rare antiques they find? They did their homework for the show. I have been to storage auctions and I never find rare or priceless stuff. Usually its junk or household items. Mostly apartment folks who have no room for their useless stuff.

These shows have folks who want to auction off their items and they contact the show, and these items get placed in different storage units. It makes no sense whatsoever that people who own priceless antiques and collectibles would not be able to afford the storage unit. Most people know better than to store valuables in these units anyway.

I thought the same thing about jewelry.  Then I acquired some in my most recent 2 lockers.  I still think people can be foolish.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: BigBizzz on October 17, 2011, 09:42:06 PM
Um this thread REAllY got 67000 views??

Smh. Tells ya something.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: CLB on October 18, 2011, 03:39:52 PM
Okay, I know that the geek that is buying the jet engine in "The Dallas Mavericks" episode is an actor.  I have seen him in a recurring role in a Sci-fi TV show or Movie.  I can picture him, but just can't place him. 

Anyone else have an idea?
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: alloro on October 18, 2011, 04:18:08 PM
Perhaps he just looks like someone else.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Roadvirus on October 19, 2011, 10:37:00 AM
Okay, I know that the geek that is buying the jet engine in "The Dallas Mavericks" episode is an actor.  I have seen him in a recurring role in a Sci-fi TV show or Movie.  I can picture him, but just can't place him. 

Anyone else have an idea?

Actually, i think that guy is Terry Stroud from the show "Masterblasters", a show that used to be on the Discovery channel about 2 teams competing to build crazy custom-built rockets.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: jsparks10 on November 29, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
I'm just pasting part of this.  But this is a quote/bio from Ton Jones:

It wasn’t easy for Jones to initially make contacts in the auction business, however. His nickname of “Ton” isn’t just the last three letters of his first name. At 6-foot-3 and 380 pounds with head tattoos, Jones is a pretty intimidating presence. Looks, however, can be deceiving.
 
“I’ve spent the better part of my life doing reptile rescue and rehabilitation,” Jones said. “The only reason I got into auctions was to make a buck and support my reptile rescues.”
 
Jones works with bobcats, mountain lions and venomous snakes.
 
“I definitely have a soft spot for wildlife and exotic animals,” Jones said. “They can’t stick up for themselves at a certain point. I’m an avid hunter but I don’t illegally poach for fun. If you’re going to eat the meat and use the animal then hunt all you want, but if you’re shooting a tiger for a coat that’s not cool.”
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: DKT6861 on November 29, 2011, 09:03:39 PM
I watch frequently and have always marveled at the way that a chance buyer out in the middle of a desert looking at a quadzilla just happens to have thousands of dollars in cash with him to buy the unit!!!
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: mrsmith on December 02, 2011, 07:57:22 AM
I feel sorry for the people that think this show is real!  Television is a copycat broadcast. Look at the formula they are using and how similiar it is to other shows. One big guy, one skinny guy. Search out the gold and find it.  I compare television reality shows to nfl football teams, one person finds a winning strategy and everyone else tries to emulate it.

The truth is buying and selling used items is hard work and generally not glamorous.  The producers found how exciting it can be at times, and ran with that. 
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: sobrdj41 on December 07, 2011, 12:56:12 AM
I have been reading these posts and I noticed that a lot of what is being posted is not quite correct. At the beginning of Auction hunters there is a written notice that the show is documenting their best finds. They are not showing all of the units they purchase, only the good ones.

The final episode of season one they did explain the good, the bad, and the ugly of Auction Hunting. They explained that 80% of the units they purchase are a bust. They also remind the viewer of that in several other episodes. They did one episode from Texas which was at a container auction in which they purchased 11 units and they said that 9 of them were a bust, and just showed us what they made off of the two good units. When they showed their profit from the total auction they took away what they paid for all eleven units to show what they actually made.

I personally find it interesting that both Auction Hunters & Storage Wars go to most of their auctions in the same cities, but you never see any of them on the other show. I am sure that the Networks have made them sign a disclosure agreement so that they can't go to auctions that the other show is at. On Auction hunters they go to auctions with several different Auctioneers, but Storage Wars only shows Auctions with that one specific Auctioneer.

Somebody stated that they never saw a bad unit on Storage Wars, That person obviously has not watched the show very often because I believe they have all been stuck with bad units on that show.

Do they edit the show to make it exiting? Of course they do, they want people to watch the show.

Did the characters on the show get hand picked? Barry stated that he was hanging out with a buddy of his that told him he was getting ready to produce a show about Storage Auctions & he asked him if he wanted in on the show, so obviously that answer is yes. You also have to figure that the main characters are being paid to do the show.

Does that mean that the shows are Fake? No. It does mean that if you decide to try your hand at Auction Hunting you might not want to expect that it is going to a big score every time. Remember that on Auction Hunters they say 80% of the units are a bust. That means that only 2 out of 10 units pay off.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Cobia on December 07, 2011, 07:29:04 AM

Does that mean that the shows are Fake? No. It does mean that if you decide to try your hand at Auction Hunting you might not want to expect that it is going to a big score every time. Remember that on Auction Hunters they say 80% of the units are a bust. That means that only 2 out of 10 units pay off.

So you believe these two guys travel around the country in an old bread truck spending thousands of dollars on units to end up only being profitable on 20% of them and still make a living? Do these guys have houses or wives or kids? Do they live out of that bread truck?

If you started a business/venture in your town and only making a profit 20% of the time, would you take your business model nationwide?

Maybe they should say 80% of units are garden variety used household merchandise that you can sell at the flea market and make a reasonable amount of return on investment if you don't over bid on the unit. If you purchase enough units maybe 10-20% will have something really nice in it that you can resell that will bring a nice smile to your face but will not make you filthy rich overnight. Riding around the country in a bread truck with your best buddy is for entertainment purposes only and should NOT be considered a realistic business model for doing storage auctions.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: mrsmith on December 07, 2011, 07:47:09 AM
Lol, That gave me a good laugh this morning Cobia, thank you.  ;D
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: alloro on December 07, 2011, 09:49:34 AM
Remember that on Auction Hunters they say 80% of the units are a bust. That means that only 2 out of 10 units pay off.

That's because everyone overpays for 80% of them. Currently I have not lost on a unit yet for this very reason. I don't bid on the junk and I'm not afraid to walk away if the price gets too high. All to often people get caught up in the auction because they want to win, when in reality overpaying makes you lose.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: sobrdj41 on December 08, 2011, 07:09:36 PM
So you believe these two guys travel around the country in an old bread truck spending thousands of dollars on units to end up only being profitable on 20% of them and still make a living? Do these guys have houses or wives or kids? Do they live out of that bread truck?So you believe these two guys travel around the country in an old bread truck spending thousands of dollars on units to end up only being profitable on 20% of them and still make a living? Do these guys have houses or wives or kids? Do they live out of that bread truck?

Did you even read my entire post? Even if 80% of the units are a bust, it does not mean they are worthless. It just means they lost money on that unit. They could have lost one dollar or $400 dollars. I explained in my post that at one auction they bought 11 units, nine of which they lost money, but the other two made them enough of a profit to pay for all of the units and make thousands in profit. As far as them driving around the country I believe they do that for the show. I also mentioned in my post that I believe they get payed to do the show.  What you seem to be saying is that if they are doing anything different from what they would normally do for the sake of the show that the show is fake. If that is the case then why didn't you just make a post called all TV is fake?
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Cobia on December 09, 2011, 08:15:22 AM
Did you even read my entire post? Even if 80% of the units are a bust, it does not mean they are worthless. It just means they lost money on that unit. They could have lost one dollar or $400 dollars. I explained in my post that at one auction they bought 11 units, nine of which they lost money, but the other two made them enough of a profit to pay for all of the units and make thousands in profit. As far as them driving around the country I believe they do that for the show. I also mentioned in my post that I believe they get payed to do the show.  What you seem to be saying is that if they are doing anything different from what they would normally do for the sake of the show that the show is fake. If that is the case then why didn't you just make a post called all TV is fake?

Yes I read your entire post. I just think people should be skeptical of a couple of guys who say there business model is predicated on losing money 80% of the time but they still make thousands in profit. That my friend is NOT a business or livelyhood, that is the definition of professional gambling.

Only people who are independently wealthy or have significant income from other sources can afford to live of off this method.

In the real world of storage unit buying not only are you tying up your money in the newly but inventory, but you are using up your time as well. There is NO way I could spend $4000 on 8 units,  spend a week processing those units 2 months selling everything from those units and still come out a couple of hundred to a thousand behind, with all the other bills that have to get payed during that two month period, turn around a buy 2 more units for $1000 and just KNOW I am going to make $10,000 in a week on those 2 units.

They are saying thier average is 80% unprofitable, weather that is $1 or $1000, and only 20% profitable, that could be only $1 or $1000. That is an average. What happens if they get a streak of 20 unprofitable units to 1 profitable?

Very few people can take a bad streak like that and stay in the game. I have seen people get knocked out of this business/hobby by buying ONE bad unit. These guys consistently buy 8 bad units for every 10?
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: bwd111 on December 09, 2011, 11:02:38 AM
But you dont get the soap opera drama on Auction hunters as you do in Storage wars. This is tv thou and people watch tv for what?? Thats right entertainment! Of course all the shows are scripted. Alot of people are acting like they did when thwy found out santa was really. Did anyone not think the shows were scipted? ::)
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: dave on December 09, 2011, 03:57:20 PM
It's not just that the Auction Hunter guys FIND something valuable in a locker.. it's that they ALWAYS personally know a buyer for whatever valuable item they've found and manage to unload the item for huge profit.  Even more ridiculous,  the buyer makes an offer and then the AH guys haggle the price UP to retail! 

Gimme a break.. it's nothing more than today's standard evolution in dramatic television.  Start with a show that is more-or-less real, like Storage Wars.  Another network copies the formula and attempts to improve on the success of the show by inflating the dollar amounts - like Auction Hunters. 

The next logical step to gain viewership is to add attractive, scantily-clad women - I'll guarantee you that's where we're headed.  Maybe "Storage Strippers..?"   :P
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on December 09, 2011, 06:04:03 PM


The next logical step to gain viewership is to add attractive, scantily-clad women - I'll guarantee you that's where we're headed.  Maybe "Storage Strippers..?"   :P


Now what channel, day and time is that on?  I'll be happy to write reviews.  ;D
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: OldRoads on December 12, 2011, 04:00:37 PM
As said above, ALL of TV is entertainment. 
Auction Hunters cuts out the tedious stuff and keeps the show moving.

Regarding “they ALWAYS personally know a buyer for whatever valuable item they've found” – not true. 
I was on the show and their producers did the research on shops in the Boston area to find me. 
And regarding a buyer paying retail, remember this, the fact that an item showed up on a TV show adds to it’s ‘provenance’!
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on December 12, 2011, 07:49:37 PM

And regarding a buyer paying retail, remember this, the fact that an item showed up on a TV show adds to it’s ‘provenance’!


Isn't that a city in Rhode Island ?  ;)
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: craiglstauction on December 12, 2011, 09:13:21 PM
This board must be getting real popular.  Seems we have a influx of (under 10 post) newbies telling everyone else how wrong they are.  Not just about the shows, but 1st time lockers netting 100s or 1000+ bucks, etc. etc.

Very strange, very strange indeed.


Honestly - if you have been doing this long enough you should have a number of buyers or "go-to" people for a number of different things.  It's when they leave to travel all over the US and still can find not just the right person, but a buyer with cash in hand that really drives me nuts.

Of course all the shows are fake.  If not people really wouldn't watch them, and they wouldn't be so popular.

As for the skimply clad female buyers -- lmk what auctions they going to be at.  I'll make sure to bring lots of $1s.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: monkeybusiness on December 13, 2011, 06:21:29 AM
Stoped watching.No longer entertaining.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: dave on December 13, 2011, 09:16:46 AM
Honestly - if you have been doing this long enough you should have a number of buyers or "go-to" people for a number of different things.  It's when they leave to travel all over the US and still can find not just the right person, but a buyer with cash in hand that really drives me nuts.

That's what I meant.   Of course I have my collection of friends and "go-to" people locally, but not all over the US. 

And note that every person on this board had fewer than 10 posts at one point in time; has nothing whatsoever to do with my experience with buying lockers. 
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: filmcrew on December 15, 2011, 05:40:31 AM
Yeah, it's fake. I was working on the crew, helped load the stuff into the rooms for them to act like they were bidding on it. it just supposed to be fun to watch, nobody in their right mind would think it's real. When we went to Dallas, the extra bidders were all extras, we rented a storage place for two days, loaded the stuff into the rooms, and shot the script. The guys "bid" on the rooms, then act amazed when they find the stuff. After we got thru, we took all the stuff we got locally back to the pawn shops, etc where we rented it from. Some of it we rented in L. A. The scripts were written around what we could find beforehand that was interesting, and some of it was written in later when we found it locally. We went into the pawn and antique shops, asked what they had that was really valuable, old or unusual, and rented it from them. we did our shoot, and returned it all. Simple as that. Hell, the "North Texas" shoot (Everything is Bigger in Texas) wasen't even shot in Texas, it was filmed in Lawton Oklahoma. In real life, those storage rooms are full of crap. We had to put some good stuff in there, or it's boring. All the "storage" type reality shows are faked. We have to, or no one would watch it. 
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Cobia on December 15, 2011, 07:15:05 AM
Yeah, it's fake. I was working on the crew, helped load the stuff into the rooms for them to act like they were bidding on it. it just supposed to be fun to watch, nobody in their right mind would think it's real. When we went to Dallas, the extra bidders were all extras, we rented a storage place for two days, loaded the stuff into the rooms, and shot the script. The guys "bid" on the rooms, then act amazed when they find the stuff. After we got thru, we took all the stuff we got locally back to the pawn shops, etc where we rented it from. Some of it we rented in L. A. The scripts were written around what we could find beforehand that was interesting, and some of it was written in later when we found it locally. We went into the pawn and antique shops, asked what they had that was really valuable, old or unusual, and rented it from them. we did our shoot, and returned it all. Simple as that. Hell, the "North Texas" shoot (Everything is Bigger in Texas) wasen't even shot in Texas, it was filmed in Lawton Oklahoma. In real life, those storage rooms are full of crap. We had to put some good stuff in there, or it's boring. All the "storage" type reality shows are faked. We have to, or no one would watch it. 

Yea but the country is full of people in their "wrong" minds! Thats why $50 units are selling for $500 now. Since you are in the TV business, can you get the producers to do shows about flea markets and thrift stores and show how buying typical used household junk for $1, $5, $10, etc. can make you hundreds and thousands of dollars.

I can see it now, you can get Alan & Ton to come to my flea market and buy everything of my tables for $1000 then show all the antiques & collectibles they found for a profit of $3000! I can't wait, we are counting on you to make this happen!
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on December 15, 2011, 09:41:45 AM
Yeah, it's fake. I was working on the crew, helped load the stuff into the rooms for them to act like they were bidding on it.

 it just supposed to be fun to watch, nobody in their right mind would think it's real.

I knew it was fake, but this was a nice REVEALING post on just HOW fake !  Thanks for posting.

As to "nobody in their right mind would think it's real" we have living proof that there are a LOT of those people around.

I wish your post could appear in every paper and on every network in the country.


Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: bwd111 on December 15, 2011, 09:59:24 AM
Yea but the country is full of people in their "wrong" minds! Thats why $50 units are selling for $500 now. Since you are in the TV business, can you get the producers to do shows about flea markets and thrift stores and show how buying typical used household junk for $1, $5, $10, etc. can make you hundreds and thousands of dollars.

I can see it now, you can get Alan & Ton to come to my flea market and buy everything of my tables for $1000 then show all the antiques & collectibles they found for a profit of $3000! I can't wait, we are counting on you to make this happen!
Thats what Ive have been saying. I work in radio and noway in hell would subway and other adverisers risk there reputation and ad dollars on a show that cant keep the audience entertained
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on December 15, 2011, 02:35:57 PM
I work in radio ...

You have mentioned this several times. What kind of work do you do:

1) on-air
2) technical (board work, etc)
3) time sales
4) continuity
5) ??
6) ??
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: bwd111 on December 15, 2011, 04:11:37 PM
You have mentioned this several times. What kind of work do you do:

1) on-air
2) technical (board work, etc)
3) time sales
4) continuity
5) ??
6) ??

From on air ,to  promotion and now a broadcast engineer. Also a hvac service tech of 4 years of school. Main job engineer
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Cranky on December 17, 2011, 12:41:55 PM
Just thought I'd relay the story of the auction I went to that was attended by Ton and Allan from AH. It occurred in Brookline, MA on 3/21/11 (I bought a unit at this auction, so got the date from my records). This auction was touted as "Boston" on the episode in which it was featured. There were 7 units up for sale and the AH guys bought 3. The bidders were real folks and not extras, though we all got paid $25 for appearing in the show.

On the Boston episode, they showed that 2 units were bought, neither of which looked that great in the few seconds we got to look inside. In one, they found a great vintage bike and some valuable, random bike parts. In the other, there were about 8 6 cu ft Home Depot boxes, 15 very large filled trash bags and one antique gun used to shoot a bomb into whales for whale hunting.

After the auction was over, the team asked some of us to stay behind and do some fake bidding so they had extra footage for the show.

By coincidence, my brother (who was with me in Brookline) went to an auction in West Boylston that Ton and Allan showed up at (this was the "Worcester" auction in that episode). Again, they bought 3 units and showed incredible finds from 2 (I think) units, including a tank gun barrel and an antique safe, valuable in its own right (as I recall, in their wrap-up of unit cost vs. profit, they claimed the safe was worth more than $1000).

I chatted up one of the members of the production team at the end of the auction in Brookline to find out what they did with the leftover stuff in the units after the show was done. He said they'd look for local auction buyers to sell the remainders to. I gave him my number and he called up a few days after the Brookline auction. He offered me the leftovers from their 6 units for $600, this included the safe allegedly worth $1k. As it happened, the unit we bought in Brookline was the worst unit we'd ever bought and we were burned out from hauling trash and making dump runs so we passed up the opportunity to clean out 6 units in short order.  

I have to say that these great finds in 4 out of 6 units purchased for that episode can lead a thinking person to only 1 conclusion (which most of you have already done) ... the good stuff is added to the unit after the buy but before the filming begins. It does make for much more fun viewing.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: OldRoads on December 19, 2011, 10:56:19 AM
On the Boston episode, they showed that 2 units were bought, neither of which looked that great in the few seconds we got to look inside. In one, they found a great vintage bike and some valuable, random bike parts.   

That's the bike and barrel of bike parts they brought to my shop.  The program only showed a few of the parts, but after selling the parts, I pretty much got the Schwinn tandem for free.  They don’t want to have to ship this stuff back home.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Nashoba on December 21, 2011, 03:06:38 PM
I knew the show was fake after watching the first episode where the "buyers" acquired an H&K handgun and sold it to a firearms dealer for $200.   
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: OldRoads on December 26, 2011, 07:32:57 AM
Quote from: OldRoads on December 12, 2011, 03:00:37 PM

And regarding a buyer paying retail, remember this, the fact that an item showed up on a TV show adds to it’s ‘provenance’!

Isn't that a city in Rhode Island ?

Heh heh.  Missed that one.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on December 27, 2011, 07:51:10 PM
Well, bottom line is they find ten thousand dollars worth of stuff in every episode. I bought over a hundred units in 2010 and it happened to me once. If you're out there hitting every auction you can and paying your dues, you know Auction Hunters is just a joke. I don't even watch it anymore. The straw that broke the camels back was when I saw Ton Jones playing a snake handler on a different reality show before he became famous.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Halcon on December 30, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
The show is 100% fake. Staged, fabricated.  Two actors pretending to be guys who make their living doing this. If you think otherwise you are a naive idiot.
Theyre not reenactments.. theyre not just showing their best finds.  It is all staged garbage.

You know how many units you'd have to go through to find a rare coke machine?  Thousands. Do you think the show has followed these clowns around to watch them buy 99 bust units in order for that rare find that will make one show? Give me a break.  It takes days of hard work just to fabricate these shows, can you imagine how long and costly it would take to let them happen on their own?

As for reenactments.. These a guys are struggling d list actors and on the side have found tanks and space shuttles in storage units. Lets reenact their stories.  lol   Theyre just ... uh... enactments.

And this poster "Old Roads"... I saw him on another forum telling everybody how real the show is.  Lets see some pictures, pal. lol

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: OldRoads on January 01, 2012, 01:37:54 PM
I can only speak for the part of the show I was on.

So, what kind of pictures?
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Halcon on January 06, 2012, 10:59:29 PM
Oh, I dunno... pics of you with the cast? Pics of anything having to do with the show? Wouldnt prove whether it was real or fake, but would certainly tell us a few things.


But the show is fake and that is fact.


And so we dont get lost with semantics, fake meaning staged or pre arranged, acted out.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: OldRoads on January 08, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
Oh, I dunno... pics of you with the cast? Pics of anything having to do with the show? Wouldnt prove whether it was real or fake, but would certainly tell us a few things.


But the show is fake and that is fact.


And so we dont get lost with semantics, fake meaning staged or pre arranged, acted out.


Yeabut, you don’t know what I look like, so how you going to know it’s me?


Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Halcon on January 10, 2012, 01:03:41 PM
Because how else would you have the pics.. lol  post a new pic of "your" shop.


Anyway, obviously youre not going to post anything or prove anything so stop wasting our time. The show is fake. Beat it, SpikeTV.. we're not buying it!
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: OldRoads on January 11, 2012, 05:50:54 PM
So, here’s me and the hosts.
All I can speak for is the episode I was on.  There were no scripts, no pre-arranged prices or negotiations.  I didn’t see the bike until the day they and their crew came in.

(http://oldroads.com/auction_hunters_aa.jpg)

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on January 11, 2012, 06:15:39 PM
Haven't watched AH since SW started on the same night about 3 weeks ago. Be interesting to see if AH numbers go down because of that programming move on the part of A&E.

The AH boys just find too many great things...I don't even care if they are re-enactments of things they have found in the past; a good disclaimer at the beginning of the show (assume that's still on), but show me one of the 80% that don't make 10K sometime...hell, I'd be happy to see them pawning the rest of the stuff off on some other buyers, or paying someone to make the dump run, but until that happens (and pigs fly) I'll go with the less fake (but still fake) SW episodes.

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Halcon on January 14, 2012, 07:39:33 PM
Oh gawd... I meant a picture taken by you... some sort of behind the scenes stuff. Anyway, nevermind.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Bandit on January 19, 2012, 01:38:42 AM
   I would tend to lean towards a " Little Signed Piece of Paper " saying what a person on the show can and can NOT talk about .
 Ex. Gold Rush Alaska
      “I didn’t sign any contract. It was a true cowboy deal. It was just a deal that I’d get a cut of the gold,” says Dorsey.
  With the result that He never got paid .
That handshake “cowboy deal” he’s referring to also meant he had no formal agreement with the Discovery Channel, thus he’s free to divulge details from the series before the episodes air.

  This is the results of No Contract
        http://www.goldminingrealityshow.com/
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Boxlot on January 19, 2012, 08:20:17 AM
Haven't watched AH since SW started on the same night about 3 weeks ago. Be interesting to see if AH numbers go down because of that programming move on the part of A&E.

The AH boys just find too many great things...I don't even care if they are re-enactments of things they have found in the past; a good disclaimer at the beginning of the show (assume that's still on), but show me one of the 80% that don't make 10K sometime...hell, I'd be happy to see them pawning the rest of the stuff off on some other buyers, or paying someone to make the dump run, but until that happens (and pigs fly) I'll go with the less fake (but still fake) SW episodes.



I had to laugh onetime when they were in Florida.  They talk about all the stuff they had take to a flea market and in 6 hours they sold just over $3000 worth of stuff.  I want to take stuff to that flea market.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Cobia on January 19, 2012, 08:31:27 AM
I had to laugh onetime when they were in Florida.  They talk about all the stuff they had take to a flea market and in 6 hours they sold just over $3000 worth of stuff.  I want to take stuff to that flea market.

All you have to do is take $30,000 worth of inventory to the flea market and you will sell it for $3,000 in 6 hours! LOL
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: acman on January 19, 2012, 10:38:18 AM
All you have to do is take $30,000 worth of inventory to the flea market and you will sell it for $3,000 in 6 hours! LOL

Lol, speakin the truth!
Title: Re: Auction Hunters
Post by: Gunnar1971 on January 30, 2012, 09:16:43 PM
 I went to an auction / taping today in Covina, Ca. It was pure coincidence as my business is next door to where they were filming and we are friends with the manager of the storage facility. I hooked up with a father / son team who are S.A.G. members (so their faces will be pixelated) and enjoyed the auction, but was surprised at the prices the units went for. I guess people were just trying to buy some camera time by grossly overpaying.

 Everyone noticed 1 very attractive young girl who was by herself and got some attention from Allen. Now, I couldn't say for sure if she was a write-in to stir the pot or just a normal bidder, but she posted herself at the end of the aisle twice and I actually pointed out to the father / son team, that this would give her a direct shot walking down the aisle to confront who she was bidding against, and lo and behold I was right.

 She won one and lost one, and was a very nice girl too. After the shooting and re-do's to get some extra action she stopped in my shop next door (we let everyone park in our lot, as it is huge) and talked for a minute. She was a down to earth 4x4 driving girl, not the usual self centered MBZ driving person you would associate with "Hollywood".

The cast and crew were very courteous and professional, but I know the area and will be disappointed if they seed any of the units. But hey, it is  T.V. so they need to do what they need to do.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: skare on February 21, 2012, 05:07:17 PM
This is what I caught.  I think it was Early Bird Special - Episode 226. They buy the crates, everyone has 24 hours to clean out their boxes.... But where is everyone else? They "disappear". Everyone just bought a unit they have 24 hours and little daylight to empty it out, instead they leave it? What happens to the stuff they don't take, and why does one show always have cool stuff covered or hidden by blankets and the other doesn't? That tells me it's staged. It's sad and pointless. Reality tv would be awesome if it wasn't so full of B.S. I think, for the most part they all are.I wish I could believe them, but I don't.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: genie144 on February 29, 2012, 10:24:05 PM
Of course some of it is staged... Just like American picker and every other 'reality' show... My father-in-law sold something from his shop in Indiana to a producer of one of these shows that then was 'picked' from a barn... Had to sign a NDA but got 3X what he was asking...

Silly people think reality tv is real...

Sam
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: clc040 on April 04, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
The one hour live special last week could not have been more staged if they had tried.  I believe it is fake, it is entertaining, but I buy storage units and there is no way they are that lucky.  Plus, Alan is a smart ass and he would keep a black eye if this was real.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Majblade2 on April 04, 2012, 08:59:31 PM
Filmed in denver back in febuary.  I was their was going to leave before aution started  but producers wanted me to stay and I was curiouse I admit.    Talke dto both ton and allen off camera for quite awhile as a 11 unit auction took 3 ****ing hours   they both real auction buyers but they really arent now.  They owned by producer and they now can do whatever as producers giving them stuff for their so called units.    Its all TV...I dont like it but it is what it is.
They wanted me to create drama and their was after shoots and the absolutley seeded unit.  I just never used to fighting over a unit back in the day  we would fight not to take a crap unit.
These auctioners now think they got it made  and they do..only ones making money.  they love this their going to ride this wave as much as they can as they work on a percentage.
The managers love this for one reason   no more  NO bid units   explaning to their bosses why they had to pay to clean out a unit that had $500 owed on it
Also     their is no doubt some manager taking advantage ..staging units  to pocket the money
Big companies like PS   they dont care about auctions   they dont care what they get out of the unit   Its all about rerenting the unit immediately as their a publicly traded company and a rented unit is a gurentted money.
Also for newbies...if the unit sells for more then whats owed money supposed to go back to renter..
however...theirs laws that change state to state...some states have to hold it in escrow for 90 days (like the police) if no one claims ...it theirs.  Some states have to immediately send a cashiers check to last known adress  if it comes back they then can keep it.    Used to be  all mail had to be certified and ads put in paper...but thats changing ..they just passed a law in colorado to get rid of newspaper  notification... No one noticed except the newspaper industry   and they hit it right   with the popularity of the auction shows they made a beef in local media.  Normally no one would have noticed but print newspapers hurting and this was another thing they were losing so the mounted a defense using storage auctions to keep them to print notices in paper.   all it did was move it more to internet as the storage places said they would post on internet sites and the papers lost here.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters
Post by: tmdk421 on April 08, 2012, 04:52:12 PM
I went to an auction / taping today in Covina, Ca. It was pure coincidence as my business is next door to where they were filming and we are friends with the manager of the storage facility. I hooked up with a father / son team who are S.A.G. members (so their faces will be pixelated) and enjoyed the auction, but was surprised at the prices the units went for. I guess people were just trying to buy some camera time by grossly overpaying.

 Everyone noticed 1 very attractive young girl who was by herself and got some attention from Allen. Now, I couldn't say for sure if she was a write-in to stir the pot or just a normal bidder, but she posted herself at the end of the aisle twice and I actually pointed out to the father / son team, that this would give her a direct shot walking down the aisle to confront who she was bidding against, and lo and behold I was right.

 She won one and lost one, and was a very nice girl too. After the shooting and re-do's to get some extra action she stopped in my shop next door (we let everyone park in our lot, as it is huge) and talked for a minute. She was a down to earth 4x4 driving girl, not the usual self centered MBZ driving person you would associate with "Hollywood".

The cast and crew were very courteous and professional, but I know the area and will be disappointed if they seed any of the units. But hey, it is  T.V. so they need to do what they need to do.

Wouldn't the manager or anyone else that worked there know if they the film crew accessed/staged  the units before they filmed it? I'm sure the manager had a lock of there own on it to secure it while it was delinquent.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Alias on April 08, 2012, 05:28:02 PM
Has anyone thought that perhaps the show has already purchased the lockers, did or didn't stage them, and are auctioning them off themselves?

This scenario would cut a lot of problems for the producers out.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on April 08, 2012, 09:05:29 PM
The next auction hunters, Wednesday, April 11, 2012....

....features a pair of dueling pistols the two find in your ordinary crap locker.

Hell, I find dueling pistols about once every six months; I trip over them in my living room I have so many !  ;)
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Cobia on April 09, 2012, 07:30:11 AM
Yea I think I accidentally dropped and broke the Holy Grail that was in a storage unit I was cleaning out. Oh well, I guess I will just have to make my money on the lost 12th crystal skull that was in there!
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Dregs on April 09, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
You can't sell that skull. You need it to stop the end of the world in December.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: tmdk421 on April 09, 2012, 05:41:27 PM
I'm waiting for them to find Jimmy Hoffa.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Tonsfriend on April 25, 2012, 10:47:13 PM
I joined this forum for the simple point of replying in this thread and to provide a good laugh to the members who've read this thread about the popular show.

I was Clinton Jones' best friend since the age of 4, up thru the first  part of high school, when I moved away and our friendship slowly drifted apart. There are some hilarious tidbits about Clint's life and childhood that are worthy of note. We grew up together in Quartz Hill, California, the high desert north of LA. He and I are exactly the same age, he has an older brother, who was my older brothers age and they were best friends. We all grew up doing t-ball and soccer together. Our moms are still friends to this day.

Clinton was the most injury prone kid in the world. He's broken major bones (arms, legs, etc) at least close to 30 times. I had to help him in Kindergarden, to write and draw, since he had a cast on his arm ( his older brother caught him riding his bike, so he stuck a rake thru the rear spokes of the bike while Clinton was riding it, flipping him up and over the top and shattering his arm when he landed). Clinton also got dragged by the arm, from the window of a car, around the parking lot of our high school, late after school one day, for talking to a guys girlfriend. The guy grabbed on to Clintons arm while he rested his forearm on the open window/door, and floored the gas. His shoulder has been permanently damaged as a result of this and his many many accidents growing up.

I don't care that the show is fake ( the high end scores are staged). But Clinton is a hilarious guy, a good guy, who has the funniest background, and that's all I'm intending on sharing.

He grew up playing with and catching lizards and snakes all the time. He never made any money at the animal wrangling thing. He was a big Steve Irwin fan though and wanted to try and do something similar to what he did.

Here's a rather humorous list of jobs that Clinton held :
1) Pleasure party host- he used to work in a small 2 person factory like setting, making *****s and sex toys, then taking them to sex parties to sell.
2) He is/ was licsensed in the state of California as a Reverend, with legal rights to perform marriages ( I don't know if he actually did any)
3)He became a very prolific piercing artist, mainly focusing on piercing the porn industry stars in San Fernando Valley
4) For hire flame blower- he always loved showmanship. He'd go to parties just to blow massive fireballs out of his mouth.
5) He is an amateur locksmith- which provided an entry way into one of his funniest TV show roles ( see below)

His film career has an interesting tie in. Years ago, he was just an extra, hired once in a while, because he fit the big biker dude look. He can be seen in Corky Romano, the piece of crap movie that Chris Kattan from Saturday Night Live did, about 10 years ago. I'm not sure if he even gets a credited role, but he is in a smokey bar scene playing a big biker dude in the movie, I don't think he even has a speaking part, but you can tell it's him.

A few years after that movie, he was still doing his animal rescue stuff ( spray painting his trucks with Reptile Rescue logos) and doing other odd jobs.  He got a call from a friend who was the receptionist at a plastic surgeons office in Palmdale, Ca. Clinton was actually cast and filmed in the show Dr 90210 as a result. Basically, one day, the camera crew for Dr 90210 were out at a new plastic surgeons office getting ready to film another boring lip job or boob job. The surgeon locked his keys in his expensive sports car and was complaining of how much it was going to cost to have someone come out to open the car. The doctors receptionist knew Clinton, and called him, telling the MD that she knew someone who could get his keys out for much cheaper. When the production crew saw this huge bald tattooed headed biker guy show up, they knew they had an interesting spin on the show and actually paid for Clinton to have liposuction. I'm sure if someone has a series on DVD of Dr 90210, they'll see Clinton, and his 8 pound weight loss via liposuction ( which was completely impossible to tell, since he's a big guy and the results weren't visible afterwards).

Anyways, I just thought I'd shed some light on his background. I don't even think he had much to do with any kind of auction hunting, I think the show concept was pitched and he makes for an interesting person to watch so he was cast.

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: che85mor on April 25, 2012, 11:26:23 PM

I don't care that the show is fake ( the high end scores are staged). But Clinton is a hilarious guy, a good guy, who has the funniest background, and that's all I'm intending on sharing.


And then you continue to share more than I ever thought I wanted to know about Ton Jones.

Side note ~ Never knew you could flip over the handlebars of a bike by sticking a rake handle in the rear spokes. Always thought you would just skid to a stop.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Tonsfriend on April 26, 2012, 04:07:14 PM
I have no interest in storage auctions, not demeaning this forum at all, just pointing it out, since I'm not planning on dialoguing forever. I didn't even know such a forum existed until I was at work and Googled Auctions Hunters, and this site came up as the fourth result. I was intending on showing a co-worker who Ton was, when I was talking about our childhood history.

The bike thing was nearly 30 years ago now. All I can assume is that he was leaning far over the front of the handlebars and momentum flipped him over. Not that it was a significant point to the story.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: bwd111 on April 27, 2012, 02:04:47 PM
Fake or not fake! Its tv! The show is for entertainment purposes only. Wrestling is fake as well but as long as people are watching AH the show will contuine to stay on. Good new is all auction show have dropped out of the top 25 for ratings and people seem to careless to watch the shows according to the last 5 weeks of ratings.Doesnt matter what they find each week its all about what someone is will to pay for what is found in units. Supply and demand.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: angelkrissie on May 23, 2012, 04:31:32 PM
obviously from what I am reading most people do not read the disclaimer at the beginning of every Auction Hunters episode.  It says and I quote.

"Each year, Allen Haff and Ton Jones dig through hundreds of unclaimed storage units hunting for discarded treasures.

These are the stories of their most rare and valuable discoveries."

That would be why they only show the good units on it. 
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: bwd111 on May 23, 2012, 05:14:00 PM
obviously from what I am reading most people do not read the disclaimer at the beginning of every Auction Hunters episode.  It says and I quote.

"Each year, Allen Haff and Ton Jones dig through hundreds of unclaimed storage units hunting for discarded treasures.

These are the stories of their most rare and valuable discoveries."

That would be why they only show the good units on it. 
Oh I wont start! But we all know that the disclaimer  states! The show is 99.9% fake and we know it.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: ge0429 on May 24, 2012, 02:21:30 PM
I thought this was interesting.

In episode 212, Allen and Ton "find" an rc viper jet in a storage unit.  They proceed to "sell" it to Tons friend Billy for $9k.

http:/www.spike.com/full-episodes/31nafh/auction-hunters-top-gun-ton-season-2-ep-212

Yet, on an rc auction web page, Billy is selling the same jet for $6k

http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=765519

The problem is that in the auction ad Billy claims to have  "built this plane myself about 8 months ago".  As an interested person points out, how could billy have built the jet himself and it have been found randomly in a locker at the same time?

Either the show or the seller is lying.  I tend not to put faith in "reality TV"...
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Cheesehead on May 24, 2012, 02:37:41 PM
So you mean the one-of-a-kind MINT CONDITION rifle they found thrown behind a pile of random crap was a PLANT!! ??? ???

Dammit, I hate it when they crush my dreams of finding that in my next locker!!   ;)
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on May 24, 2012, 03:00:06 PM
I thought this was interesting.


That is MORE than interesting !  Thanks for the good tracking on that. I think your timeline says it all.

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: alloro on May 24, 2012, 04:20:37 PM
What's with all of the "FAKE" talk? Next you're gunna try and tell me that pro wrestling is fake too. I'm outta here, NASCAR just announced a right turn only track that I just gotta go check out.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: tmdk421 on May 26, 2012, 12:47:20 PM
I thought this was interesting.

In episode 212, Allen and Ton "find" an rc viper jet in a storage unit.  They proceed to "sell" it to Tons friend Billy for $9k.

http:/www.spike.com/full-episodes/31nafh/auction-hunters-top-gun-ton-season-2-ep-212

Yet, on an rc auction web page, Billy is selling the same jet for $6k

http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=765519

The problem is that in the auction ad Billy claims to have  "built this plane myself about 8 months ago".  As an interested person points out, how could billy have built the jet himself and it have been found randomly in a locker at the same time?

Either the show or the seller is lying.  I tend not to put faith in "reality TV"...


When Billy got called out on this he replied, "call me and i will explain some things to you." which basicly tells me the obvious, all the "buyers" of the high end stuff found in the lockers are in fact the ones that provide the items for the show.
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Post by: kimmy46 on May 31, 2012, 11:43:21 AM
This show is totally fake!!!  I've watched Storage Wars for a while now so I thought I would check out Auction Hunters.  I watched several episodes and it because painfully clear that this show is staged.  For the most part they hunt the SAME state as the people on Storage Wars, So. Cal. each and every locker they buy has either a car, a boat etc.  things of substantial value where as the Storage Wars crew RARELY find things valued at tens of thousands of dollars.  A classic Chevelle? Give me a break...this show is set up...won't ever watch it again.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on May 31, 2012, 11:45:29 PM
Yeah, it's fake, but you still watch it.  ;)

What's the definition of insanity?
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Bandit on June 06, 2012, 10:49:12 PM
  I just found a reference ( and link ) to the RC Jet mentioned above in another forum , so the word on how fake the show is , is getting around .
Bandit
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: bwd111 on June 07, 2012, 09:25:34 AM
  I just found a reference ( and link ) to the RC Jet mentioned above in another forum , so the word on how fake the show is , is getting around .
Bandit
What AH  needs to do is take lesson from Barry wise on SW and mimic rocky movie. Then the show would be more real!. All the TV show are scripted and are for entertainment purposes only. The networks have an obligation to the people who pay there bills and that's the advertisers.
 
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: tmdk421 on June 09, 2012, 08:19:50 PM
i have to ask about the episode that the antique black powder pistol ton shot chain fired, i have to say if you have seen a certain episode of pawn stars you know how they used to prevent that back in the day.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Alias300 on June 10, 2012, 10:26:34 AM
i have to ask about the episode that the antique black powder pistol to shot chain fired, i have to say if you have seen a certain episode of pawn stars you know how they used to prevent that back in the day.

I haven't seen that episode.
But I'd say load properly and keep your side arm clean....

If they said to load it with grease, like Cisco, they are giving poor advice. That seems to be the age old advice.  In the long run that's going to create cross firing and eventually make your fire arm not function at all (untill you clean it, that is)
Don't get me wrong. It works.  And for AH test firing, where your only shooting a few rounds, should have been used but there are better ways.

Yeah....grew up next door to an old cowboy sort that loved his black powder.....remember sitting over fire melting lead and pouring into casts...at 7yrs old.   The good old days.   No worries of CPS then.....    ;D 
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: tmdk421 on June 10, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
Storage hunters, watching that right now, they keep talking about being able to research the owner, name, job, hobbies? does this actually happen in the real world?
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Cobia on June 10, 2012, 06:04:27 PM
Storage hunters, watching that right now, they keep talking about being able to research the owner, name, job, hobbies? does this actually happen in the real world?


We talked about that in a thread here I believe. The consensus is if you live in a small town, then researching the names may give you some insight into WHY they lost the unit, but should not be used necessarily to assume the quality of the contents inside the storage unit.

In a small town there might only be 1 john fuller and 3 jake smiths, mid size to large cities you might have 10 john fullers and 50 jake smiths so figuring out who is who is impossible thus a waste of time.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: bwd111 on June 20, 2012, 03:08:55 PM
Although it may not come as a huge surprise that "reality" TV is somewhat contrived, Auction Hunters has taken it to a new level that places the entire industry in doubt.

Auction Hunters premiered on November 9, 2010 on Spike (formerly Spike TV).  The show follows Allen Haff and Clinton "Ton" Jones, as they participate in storage unit auctions throughout Southern California. The pair leads viewers through the process of bidding on and winning abandoned storage units, appraising the items found within, and selling the most lucrative and interesting pieces to experts or collectors for awesome profits.

Great concept, and the show is entertaining, the only problem being the show is completely fake.  And I mean 100% phony.

The show is co-hosted by Allen Haff and Clinton "Ton" Jones who are paid actors under contract to Spike who earn their money through TV contracts, not junk dealing.

Allen Haff is an actor best known for his roles as; Police Officer #1 in the made for TV movie Washington Field, Yacht guest #1 in CSI Miami and even the lead role in the 2001 blockbuster hit, Rodentz.

Clinton Jones made a career for himself playing security guards and bikers in the late 2000's.  Jones also starred in 3 episodes of the shortlived documentary I was Bitten, in which he appeared as an "expert" animal wrangler, back in 2008.


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So the hosts are actors, end of story, right?  Actually it gets worse;  The Blatant breaking of The Sherman Act of 1890 and "bid rigging".

Bid rigging is the result of a conspiracy between two or more participants entered into for the purpose of artificially affecting auction prices. The parties' agreement to the scheme is the necessary keystone to establish a violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act. Here are two important points about bid rigging that are not commonly known.First, a violation of the Sherman Act does not occur when a rigged bid is executed in an auction. The law is broken at the moment the conspiracy was formed by the co-conspirators. The Sherman Act outlaws a conspiracy made "in restraint of trade or commerce." The statute is triggered upon the parties' making an agreement to do what is impermissible, and it does not require execution of the plan.

Second, it is not necessary for the conspiracy to succeed for the Sherman Act to be violated. Again, the violation occurs immediately upon the parties making an agreement that is prohibited by law. If two or more would-be bidders conspire to depress bidding in an auction, they have violated the act even if their plan fails. Likewise, if an auctioneer and a shill, or a seller and an accomplice, conspire to artificially boost prices in an auction, a violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act has occurred regardless of whether they gain a higher selling price.

Upon conviction, the statute provides for a "fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years.

The Sherman Act is clearly broken in one episode where hosts Allen Haff and Clinton "Ton" Jones use the phrase "Drop the unit on him", where they deliberately inflate the unit's price to $950.00 and then stop bidding. 

As employee's of Spike TV, Allen Haff and Clinton "Ton" Jones are not liable, however Spike TV is guilty of breaking The Sherman Antitrust Act as the corporation that hired and promoted the activity. Spike TV should be getting a 100 million dollar fine.  Wait!  It's fake remember, so Spike will never see such a fine, proving this show is nothing more than a "show" and not reality.

In this horrific economy, everyone is trying new ways to make money for their families and Spike TV has taken full advantage of this by producing shows which falsely imply money can be easily made by buying and selling junk.

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on June 20, 2012, 04:13:52 PM
The source for most of what bwd "said" in post 96 above is at the link shown below:

westcoasttruth.com/spike-tvs-auction-hunters-is-fake.html
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: tmdk421 on June 20, 2012, 08:16:06 PM
they found a cannon, i so shocked :o
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on June 20, 2012, 08:22:52 PM
they found a cannon, i so shocked :o

Cannon, smannon....after THAT they found a Russian motorcycle WITH a sidecar !

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: halfton on June 20, 2012, 11:36:57 PM
Nope, not fake.  Modified reality though.  See this thread.

http://storageauctionforums.com/index.php?topic=581.0



Although giving the impression of a reality show, Auction Hunters is actually presented by actors which leads Russell Scott of The West Coast Truth to conclude that the auctions presented in the show are actually staged affairs.
Although giving the impression of a reality show, Auction Hunters is actually presented by actors which leads Russell Scott of The West Coast Truth to conclude that the auctions presented in the show are actually staged affairs.
Although giving the impression of a reality show, Auction Hunters is actually presented by actors which leads Russell Scott of The West Coast Truth to conclude that the auctions presented in the show are actually staged affairs.
Although giving the impression of a reality show, Auction Hunters is actually presented by actors which leads Russell Scott of The West Coast Truth to conclude that the auctions presented in the show are actually staged affairs.
Although giving the impression of a reality show, Auction Hunters is actually presented by actors which leads Russell Scott of The West Coast Truth to conclude that the auctions presented in the show are actually staged affairs.

 :o
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: mracer on June 21, 2012, 05:44:35 AM
My friend is the actual owner of the soviet bike used in the show. It was rented.for $600 and he has recept to prove it. He bought the bike from the owner who rented it to the show. The owner had it for 10 years,restored ot and eventually sold it to my friend... No barn find as we have import papers and all...The show is a total fake.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: areukiddingme on July 11, 2012, 07:43:53 PM
okay, here is the skinny on these shows. The only thing real in the show is the auction process, bidding and the people in the background of course. I have been in this industry for a long time and can tell you that 99% of the items you see are items placed in there. Here is how it goes. Camera crew arrives and stages around in the office. The reality stars vehicles are trucked in on flatbeds. Real bidders are told to act normal as if the cameras are not around. Auctioneer comes out states the rules and camera crew follows. After bidding is completed then the magic begins. Items are removed from the production truck and are stagged in another unit around the locked that was won. After the planted items are placed inside the the contents from the unit are moved into the donated unit. Thus begins the filming and the OMG! look what I have here. Sorry to spoil it for those who believe this is real. I witnessed this first hand at my place. Sorry folks. Real auctions are boring, If a real auction was being filmed it would not last two episodes. :o
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: areukiddingme on July 11, 2012, 07:45:50 PM
Humm you may want to pay a little bit closer attention to the Show, as Barry regularly loses money on his lockers and they have shown all of them losing money on their lockers.

Auction Hunters? I will agree they only show the great lockers and it is not too close to reality, however Storage Wars seems to be a bit more real. JMO!!!!!

Not real money, fake money.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on July 16, 2012, 08:49:51 PM
I'm just waiting for the episode when they find a lost Rembrandt or the pistol used to assassinate Lincoln.  ::)
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: MovieMan on July 16, 2012, 08:55:56 PM
I'm just waiting for the episode when they find ...... the pistol used to assassinate Lincoln.  ::)

What, you missed that one?  Don't worry, it will run again along with the episode where they find the Carcano used by Lee Harvey Oswald and Hitler's little auto pistol (both of those were found in the same locker along with 20 bags of Walmart clothes).

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on July 17, 2012, 12:41:55 AM
The one thing Alan & Ton will never find in a storage unit - their dignity.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: mjt1959 on September 27, 2012, 04:51:25 AM
If you pay attention at the very beginning of the show, it says that these are the stories of their best finds. To me that says that they probably buy a lot of units then they re-enact their best finds so what we see most likely isn't the actual auctions, just re-enactments.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on October 29, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
Or maybe, Spike found out that A&E was creating a show about storage auctions and decided to create their own show and cast relatively unknown actors as the "professionals".

My opinion: Ton & Allen have never bought a real storage unit in their lives. Everything they have said and done on television show was scripted. Spike probably hired a real storage auction buyer as a writing consultant to help give the writers ideas.

A full time storage auction buyer could spend a lifetime trying to find the things that Auction Hunters has show in just a few seasons. The show is faker than a spray on tan.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on December 30, 2012, 09:31:47 AM
Has anyone heard when the new episodes of Auction Hunters are coming out?
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on April 14, 2013, 04:33:05 PM
I do believe I have seen it all now. The other night, Allen buys a $5 unit full of trash and makes a $6000 profit.  :-[

What a joke. They should change the name of the show from Auction Hunters to Auction Hoaxers.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: sbell111 on April 18, 2013, 02:17:50 PM
This last show had the feel of reality:

The partners agree on a top price.
One partner blows waaaay through the cap.
They lose their butts on the purchase.
The partnership implodes and one of them takes his balls and goes home, leaving the other holding the bag.

That sounds about right.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on April 18, 2013, 03:07:09 PM
This last show had the feel of reality:

The partners agree on a top price.
One partner blows waaaay through the cap.
They lose their butts on the purchase.
The partnership implodes and one of them takes his balls and goes home, leaving the other holding the bag.

That sounds about right.

Right!
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: SteveChesi on April 19, 2013, 06:16:41 AM
let me get this straight...Allen Haff wants to sell a "landing bag" for movie jump scenes, that he just got from a storage unit..so he climbs up an old building (he's gotta "prove" the bag works to score the agreed upon selling price)....,leaves on his SUNGLASSES...peers precariously over the ledge...stands up straight to commence his dive..then.."CUT , where's the stunt guy???"... insert stunt man,edit taping..and perfect flip to land on his back,sunglasses and all....BIG PROFIT,right?.... wait,wait... according to some internet research (ehow.com) on StuntMan wages. " TV Minimums.... Stuntmen and coordinators get $809 a day, or $1,081 daily for pilots in the studio, or $1,406 daily for pilots on location. Weekly rates for stunt performers, coordinators and pilots are $3,015, though pilots receive a $927 adjustment for flying"... hmmm did that get deducted from from the "profit" total at the end of the show?
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Post by: sbell111 on April 19, 2013, 07:25:54 AM
I was wondering how they were going to get rid of the stupid 'pawn' shop at the end of the season.  This was as good of a way as any.  The bonus with this is that it leads right into an American Chopperesque 'Sr v Jr' season, because this show for some reason thinks that it needs a theme for each season.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: steve248 on December 04, 2013, 04:35:50 AM
Hi everyone, my first post but I happen to know how this works, I cannot tell you how, and happy to share.

They do not buy hundreds of units hoping to get a few good ones.

They do not setup fake units and fake auctions.

Here is the clue. Is the good stuff ever visible? No its not.

They win a unit and then the good stuff is planted in the unit by the programme makers before Allen and Ton start going through it.

All of the buyers of the items are setup in advance.

Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on December 04, 2013, 07:22:53 AM
I would say you hit the nail on the head. Welcome to the forum.
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Post by: ranlawre145 on March 20, 2014, 04:25:42 AM
What kind of skull you was want to sell. Yeah may be the auction was fake but i forgot. I don't remember.
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Post by: auctionguy on March 20, 2014, 05:40:05 PM
Since this post just popped up as new due to the comment about skull that doesn't make sense to me I saw steve248's post and wanted to add on.

First, they do not buy 100's of units in order to filter out the best ones to go on the show.  An entire season is filmed in less than 2 months.  In the areas that they film there aren't even 100's of units up for auction in a period of 2 months.

They do stage.

There is a producer that finds items, purchases them and then places them in a unit.

This works by having the bidder buy the unit.  The buyer then walks away and the producers/crew take out every item, tape over the logos and place the "wow factor" box somewhere in the back. 

This is why you never see it in the front, unless its an actual item not staged ... which does of course happen.

The auctions are real and legal.  Once the room is purchased as at a legal auction they then own the property and can do whatever they want/need to do for tv show.  This is misleading to the viewers but legal.

The cast is obviously there because they are being paid.  The majority of the bidders are there normally and have to sign a waiver to appear on tv.

They will have the crowd do different takes and different reactions so they can edit it later in post as they see fit.

If you watch any of these shows for anything other than entertainment and think you will get rich doing it you are being foolish.
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Post by: BBAGuyver01 on April 08, 2014, 04:27:53 AM
Just saw this thread and decided to register to comment on it. I hate to tell you guys, but auction hunters is fake and real at the same time, but not in the way auctionguy puts it. If you read the warning at the beginning of the show, you'd see what I mean:

Each year, Allen Haff and Ton Jones dig
through hundreds of unclaimed storage
units hunting for discarded treasure.

These are the stories of their most rare
and valuable discoveries.

That's what I mean. The real part is that it probably did happen. The fake part is that they recreated the events for the show.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: alloro on April 08, 2014, 07:15:43 AM
Just saw this thread and decided to register to comment on it.

We don't care how anyone gets here, as long as they get here! :)
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on April 08, 2014, 08:22:07 AM
BBAGuyver01 welcome to the forum.

In my opinion, even their disclaimer is lie. These two weren't buying storage units together before the show, they we're ACTORS! If anything, the show is based on the discoveries of a real, yet anonymous, storage unit buyer who assists the writers.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: Travis on May 13, 2014, 10:40:33 AM
Are they still filming out of the Haff / Fake, I mean Haff / Ton pawn shop? Sorry, I used to watch the show but haven't this season.
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: alloro on May 13, 2014, 01:06:17 PM
In the last episode their landlord said he liked the pawn shop and offered to buy them out of it, which they did.
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Post by: Travis on August 22, 2014, 01:22:58 PM
Anyone heard anything about Auction Hunters in a while? Wonder if the show has been cancelled.
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Post by: Jokke on September 25, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
I just watched an episode, no idea which season, but I noticed that Ton Jones seemed to have a lot of weight!

Was he sick? On a diet?
Title: Re: Auction Hunters is FAKE!!!
Post by: alloro on September 26, 2015, 09:55:40 AM
Yes, Auction Hunters has been canceled.
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Post by: Jokke on September 27, 2015, 01:10:17 PM
Yes, Auction Hunters has been canceled.

I know its been cancelled, but not because he was sick? Or ?

I noticed that he looked like someone who lost lots of weight, so I wonder: diet or sick?
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Post by: alloro on September 28, 2015, 09:49:38 AM
Feel free to try and find a better answer here, because if it was Ton's health I can't find anything on it.
https://www.facebook.com/AuctionHunters

Allen HAFF: I really appreciate the comments posted above. Here at the end of this road, there was just way too much beyond our control to be disappointed and we had way too much fun these last 5 years to be sad! Ton & I will both miss making this program BUT I'm especially going to miss sharing them here with YOU. The fact that we got to share this AH-some trip together at all? I feel lucky. THANK YOU!
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