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General Storage Auction Talk / With the new auction show comming out
« on: April 11, 2012, 10:08:43 AM »
in which I called last year Baggage battles on bidding on people lost luggage hopefully the people that starting going to storage auctions due to the tv shows can divert there way over to baggage auctions. Let the airports deal with the big crowds. Im sure this show will have huge finds worth thousands and thousands of dollars. Hope the show makes it look like this auction is the one  to be at. Like I said monkey see monkey do. Wonder if every airport will be holding auctions?

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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: Lost money at the auction.
« on: April 09, 2012, 02:24:16 PM »
Hopefully the money dropped out of the pocket at home or in the car and it was found.

If the money dropped out at auction I would never be able to look at my fellow buyers again the same way. To think someone would keep the money instead of turning it in at the office is a difficult thing to accept, if that is what happened.

I know I would do my best to find the rightful owner if I found it…


Its only money they will print more.

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Online Storage Auctions / Re: Online Auctions Reach Central Texas
« on: April 09, 2012, 02:21:04 PM »
For this business model to work, online storage auctions, it will be dependent on the perceived value of the service. I can see it working as long as people don't believe they are being set up and over paying for the units. As long as a good percentage of people are happy with the units they win, and the facilities are getting the money they need, then it certainly looks like it has a future. Probably would be quite a while before they totally replace "live" auctions, but I could definitely see as a auction buyer in the next 5 to 10 years the possibility of 50% of units coming from internet auctions and the other 50% from traditional live auctions.
I think in the next 5-10 years there will be so many new laws that are against the way storage auctions are conducted that it will be more of a hassel to buy units. Some people say that want to see unit up close and see how the unit smells! That is a great and how it should be. People that dont use flashlights should love online buying

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Ok,and?
And meaning show is losing appeal. And people not so into show

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They shows arent even in the top 25 anymore. I mean it gets old after a year watching people pull the same old stuff out of each unit. Let me guess your show will have more drama and a better storyline

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It doesn't matter how good the economy is, people are still losing their storage units. Even in the best economy, there is still an overabundant supply. I'm sure there are plenty of auctions going on around you but you have to do your homework to find them. What area are you in by the way?
In slc. Don't get me wrong there are auction just not allot. Not really economy problem just people have the means to throw down an extra 60 to 120 a month to rent space for there belongings. Storage facility's across the country are offering huge discounts and perks to get people to rent space. Just look at all the specials going on right now. I wouldn't want to be a owner of a storage faculty right now.

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Online Storage Auctions / Re: Online Auctions Reach Central Texas
« on: April 06, 2012, 01:27:12 PM »
Let me try something here. I will take the current bid price, $255 and multiply it by how many days left, 4 & 19/24 days for a final guess of $1222.
Im going to say 850- 970. Either way it will be way over bidded. That is a 300 max locker.

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The guy that wrote that article hit a few nails on the head but he said 6 things that made me think he has no idea what he is talking about.

He said "The truth is, probably 98% of the time you will lose money instead of making it."

Total BS. Let's just make up statistics and percentages. If you only bid on what you can see and you wait for the right unit to come along at the right price, you can still make money in this business.  

He said "There also are not nearly as many units being auctioned now. With the economy as bad as it's been, it appears most people who were going to lose their units have already lost them. Just look at the vacancy rate at storage facilities. It is reported that vacancy rates are about 30%, but there is evidence to suggest that they're much higher."

Again, total BS. The number of auctions & the number of units at the auctions has not fluctuated, if anything, there are more auctions occurring because the storage facility owners and managers are trying to capitalize on the increased interest in storage auctions. Vacancy rates have always averaged around 30%, except for urban facilities with dense populations.

He Said "Most people who actually have valuable items in a self storage unit will take the valuables out and sell them themselves before they default, or while the default process is going on. They do get notification that their unit is going to auction in plenty of time to get the good stuff out and just leave the junk and trash."

No, they don't have plenty of time to get their valuables out. If their rent is due on the 1st, most facilities attempt to contact the tenant on the 3rd and if payment has not been received, they over lock the unit by the 5th at the latest. The tenant cannot cut the facility's lock, otherwise it is considered burglary of a building.

He said "Most people who default on storage units are just normal people, not rich. They're storing holiday decorations, used baby clothes, knick knacks, paperwork or other items which are difficult to sell, and definitely don't have high profit potential."

Perhaps the reason the writer of this article is so bitter is because he was only in the storage auction business for the big scores. The reason he can't buy units anymore is because everyone else is looking for those big scores as well. The smart people in the storage auction business realize that the common household items, clothing, electronics, furniture, tools, lawn equipment, baby items, knick knacks, sporting goods, etc., are the bread and butter in this business. If I see an average unit containing common items and I think I can double my money, I'll buy it. If all you're doing is chasing the units everyone else wants, don't be surprised when you have to overpay to get a unit.

He said "Keep in mind people are not paying as much for things as they used to."

What an idiot! Yes, people are being more cautious with their money, which means they are buying quality second hand merchandise instead of buying new products. If anything, this demand for second hand merchandise is raising prices higher than they were when the economy was good.

He said "The auctioneer wants their piece of the pie. Most of the time there is a buyer's premium paid to them in addition to what you pay for the unit, so make sure you have 10-20% more cash available to pay their cut."

This isn't not true, most auctioneers do not charge a buyers premium. Sure some do, but a majority of the auctioneers get their cut from the storage facility.








Also depends where you live and state economy and those who can afford the luxory of rent a storage unit. My state has the best econmoy in the USA so not many auctions going on. And the 98% losing money is where the show watchers way over bid and leave no room for profit. So I can see 98% about right. People love to jack the bid up and waste there money

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a unit full of trash but are too cheap to spend 20 bucks on a lottery ticket. People at the auction were saying thats a waste of money to buy lottery tickets! I said its a waste to bid 1500.00 on a junk unit. 

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Good news clip a buddy sent me this morning. Storage Auctions...Easy Money, or Money for Nothing?
 
What's up with these storage auctions?
Making money buying defaulted storage units seems to be all the craze these days. With television shows hyping the "riches" that can be found in these units, or lockers, it seems easy to find your way to wealth. The truth is, probably 98% of the time you will lose money instead of making it.

Before this became a fad there was some money to be made if you were smart and knowledgeable. Now it's generally a waste of time and money.

It used to be that 10 to 15 people who knew about this business would show up for these storage auctions. The bidding was kept low because of the number of people, and there were a lot of units to bid on. Now it's not unusual to to see a hundred or more people at an auction who think they know what they're doing, but end up paying way too much. Have you ever attended an auction where the bidding frenzy begins and people bid way over even retail value? Well, so it goes with storage auctions these days. A unit that may have sold for $200-$300 a couple of years ago now sells for well over $1000. There is no profit to be made when a unit is so overpriced.

There also are not nearly as many units being auctioned now. With the economy as bad as it's been, it appears most people who were going to lose their units have already lost them. Just look at the vacancy rate at storage facilities. It is reported that vacancy rates are about 30%, but there is evidence to suggest that they're much higher.

 
Source: jarrodlombardoA few words of warning
If you still think this may be the business for you, here are a few more things to consider:

Self storage is kind of a weird product. It's a need based product if you need more storage space and you have some extra cash to pay someone to store your stuff. But if you don't have extra cash, some would consider it a luxury they can do without. They may just continue to pile stuff up at their house, or sell, or trash their stuff themselves.

Most people who actually have valuable items in a self storage unit will take the valuables out and sell them themselves before they default, or while the default process is going on. They do get notification that their unit is going to auction in plenty of time to get the good stuff out and just leave the junk and trash. The best bet to avoid this is if someone has moved and the facility can't get in touch with them, or if someone has died and their family doesn't know about the unit. You would never know this in advance, of course, but if either of these is the case, you may hit a home run.

Most people who default on storage units are just normal people, not rich. They're storing holiday decorations, used baby clothes, knick knacks, paperwork or other items which are difficult to sell, and definitely don't have high profit potential. Most state laws do not allow you to go into a unit and look around, you have to look from the door. Those piled up boxes? Well, they're piled up boxes.

Keep in mind people are not paying as much for things as they used to. Take furniture for example. Say you get a unit full of furniture that is in really good condition. You think you've hit the jackpot. Everyone needs furniture, right? Right. And a lot of people don't want to pay retail anymore. The problem is two fold. First, used furniture is everywhere now, and it's cheap. And second, you're going to advertise it on the internet.  People are going to call you to look at it. If in fact they show up, which is a big if, they are going to beat you up on the price.

The auctioneer wants their piece of the pie. Most of the time there is a buyer's premium paid to them in addition to what you pay for the unit, so make sure you have 10-20% more cash available to pay their cut.

The storage facility will charge you a deposit in addition to the price you paid for the unit. They want to make sure the unit is cleared out and left clean when you are done. The deposit ranges from about $50-$100. Yes, you will get it back if you make sure the unit is nice and clean when you leave, but it's just one more thing to keep in mind when you buy a unit. You need that additional cash with you. Usually the storage facility will give you 24-48 hours to clear out the unit. If you can't do it in that time, you're going to have to rent it until you can.

You need a good way to get rid of trash because you will have lots and lots of it. You cannot leave it at the storage facility. Maybe you can talk your regular trash collectors into taking it by giving them a little "lunch" money, or you're going to have to take it to a dump yourself. You need a vehicle big enough to haul it, and dump fees have also gone up and can eat into your profits.

Remember, people will always tell you about their big payoffs, but never their losses. Yes, maybe they once bought a unit that they made a couple of thousand dollars on. What they don't tell you about is the thousands of dollars they spent, and lost, to find that one gem.

Is this business really for you?
There are certain people that find this business appealing. Check out the list below to see if it's a business for you.

If you like opening boxes just because you don't know what's in them, this might be the business for you. There are definitely interesting and sometimes scary items to be found in storage units.

If you like having garage sales or going to flea markets every weekend to sell used, and mostly worthless stuff, this might be the business for you.

If you like getting beat up constantly to lower your price when you're only asking a quarter in the first place, this might be the business for you.

If you can detach yourself from the idea that what you find in a storage unit may have little to no monetary value, but has high sentimental value to someone, this might be the business for you.

If you are willing to spend a bunch of money to find that one jewel, this might be the business for you.

If you believe everything you see on TV, this might be the business for you.

 

In conclusion
To be fair, there are some people who are in this business who are successful. Much of it is heavily dependent on geographical area and local economy. For those of you who are in this business and are making a living, good for you. I wish you continued success.

For those of you who are thinking about getting into this business, read and study everything you can that's available from people who have had success.


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General Storage Auction Talk / funny
« on: March 28, 2012, 03:00:44 PM »
 http://www.ksl.com  go to auction section

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General Storage Auction Talk / Re: Sad state of storage unit buying
« on: March 27, 2012, 10:25:43 AM »
Well Ive been doing this for 15 years now.   Its as bad as It can get.  Ive seen inudations of people as far back as 5 years ago with the ebay convention things at your nearest Hilton hotel on saturday between 2-4  only $40   teach you all you need to know to make a fortune on ebay by reselling stuff and one of the things was storage lockers.    Im guessing (never went to one) they were more truethuful about getting stuff out of a unit for ebay becuase we got big influxes of people but they never bought and were gone right away.   These TV shows they belive that they can spend $500 on a 5x10 unit and they will hit gambling gold.  So its funny I see 5x5 and 5x10 going for more money then  10x30 full that will be alot of work but I can see them money sitting there in front of me.
I recently did a U-Haul place,  two 5x5 went for over $800 each but I bought a 10x20 for $500   lots of crap lots to trash and lots to goodwill but I easily cleared $2000  over the weekend at flea market.    And I never see these newbies at flea market.   And the few I do  I immediatley go over and cherry pick their stuff.  They have not idea  ask to much on stuff that not worth what they think and sell me stuff for litterly $1  I turn around with in an hour and sell for $50.
Im not trying to be one of those guys that sits their tells about all my great buys ....what im saying are noobies  your in over you head and Ill prey on you left and right   go ahead buy that unit for $500 that two years ago Id given $40 for  Ill buy the good stuff you just losing your money... Go to a casino  you have a better chance of making money
With everyone buying and flooding the market with product it ruins prices.

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Just re-looked at that unit.  Figure it is good practice.  I suspect everyone is driving the price up on that unit thinking it has lots of antiques.  It does have some age to it.  Plus, it looks like it was professionally wrapped.  You have shrink wrap around some of the furniture.  Plus the company moving boxes.  See an old style highchair in front, that shoe shine kit is old school.  American flag became real popular again after 9-11 so that isn't really a "tell" like they would before.  Golf clubs look old so not much value there.  The toolbox looks to be a harbor freight model.  Don't see "craftsmen" on the front like you normally would.  Or someone didn't put the sticker on.  The roll-up desk is a nice item.  Hopefully gas hasn't leaked onto it from the (I think) gas can on top of it.

I see about $800 - $1000 bid if was me.  Unit still would go for 800 - 1500 here.  The two units that I have seen so far this large and packed went for 1300, and 950.  A pretty large antique furniture unit went for 1500 (buddy got that one).

The patio furniture - 150-200
US flag - 10
Table + 4 chairs - 50
Empty totes w/ lid - $3 each
Golf clubs - ??  (sold 1 set for $50 so far)
Roll-up desk -- start at 200 - 250 and see if get bites
Tool chest - as genie said depends what it is.  -  $50 - $200

I'd love to go over that unit...just not at that price.
What about the wood with the faces engraved on it. I know some of those pieces go for big bucks but that looks like a reproduction. Wow unit is up to 2 grand already. Bet this goes for 2700.00

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Would bid max 1,100 due to scratchs takes the price way down. Bet this unit sells for 1,854 .

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